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小松未歩とガーネットクロウ

June 6, 20022ch musicj117 postsmimizunAdded on September 14, 2026

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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 10:34 | ID:SIe7KbXI
Which one is better? In every respect…
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 10:38 | ID:SIe7KbXI
Miho Komatsu sells better.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 10:42 | ID:Gz8BElNs
They’re evenly matched in terms of unstable singing. Evenly matched in terms of cuteness. Evenly matched in terms of being under GIZA. Because AZUKI Nana’s presence is overwhelmingly strong, I vote for GARNET CROW. But when it comes to taste in songs, I prefer Miho Komatsu.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 10:45 | ID:BMJQWblE
I vote for GARNET CROW.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 10:50 | ID:a67RGnsQ
I can’t choose!… But lately I’ve listened to GARNET CROW more, so I’ll vote for GARNET CROW for now. I really like Komatsu’s voice, though.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 10:57 | ID:SIe7KbXI
Miho Komatsu’s current total CD sales are about 2.5 million copies. CDs connected with songs she provided total about 1.5 million.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 11:06 | ID:SIe7KbXI
Best ranking: Komatsu 3rd, GARNET 4th. Lowest ranking: Komatsu 30th, GARNET 47th.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 11:14 | ID:SIe7KbXI
Major-debut dates: Miho Komatsu: May 28, 1997 (the earliest GIZA artist). GARNET: March 29, 2000 (discovered by Hiroto Furui from Komatsu’s circle).
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 12:36 | ID:SIe7KbXI
I thought the song in the FamilyMart commercial was by Miho, but it turned out to be Folder.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 21:30 | ID:7pEjxzpg
It really is easy to mistake them, >>9.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 21:49 | ID:18OLqbyY
I choose GARNET. I can listen to them on endless repeat. Komatsu’s voice gets tiring after a while, like ZARD’s.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 22:37 | ID:5/jxFREw
Speaking of which, Miho Komatsu doesn’t actually exist… She’s computer-generated, right?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/06 23:50 | ID:W7zNZAwA
Miho Komatsu = CG ≒ GC, is that what you mean? I’ve seen the real Miho in a magazine, though.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/07 00:11 | ID:W7zNZAwA
By the way, I think Miho is better. Her voice is gentle and pleasant, and I think she’s a technically skilled singer.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/07 06:52 | ID:Zb8Ccr6.
>>13 That was a part-time worker.
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ナナシ | 2002/06/07 09:08 | ID:LvYqgpHA
Both are among the top GIZA acts (not in terms of popularity or sales). But I’ve followed Komatsu longer, so GARNET CROW is probably still one step behind.
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| 2002/06/07 10:32 | ID:UThcxZyI
It’s a matter of personal taste. At most, GC’s arrangements have been a little better lately.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/07 10:36 | ID:RjGyr1gI
>>17 So you mean Hiroto Furui is the more skilled one after all?
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| 2002/06/07 10:44 | ID:UThcxZyI
I wouldn’t go so far as to say Furui is amazing, but compared with Oga, his arrangements are much more solid.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/07 10:50 | ID:pq5VZa/Q
“dance” passed 8,000 copies in its first week.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/07 17:05 | ID:bEeqLtm.
I wish they would form a group and make music together under the name “Komatsu GARNET.” The song title could be “Mysterious Phantom”!!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/07 20:09 | ID:29MEmNHI
>>21 “Mysterious” and “phantom”—how meaningfulw
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小松未歩のファン | 2002/06/08 14:38 | ID:wciXInYU
The conclusion is that both are (・∀・) good!! Though lately I’ve been listening to GC more (confession). >>3 AZUKI Nana really does have a huge presence. >>21 (・∀・) Good!! I wish they would do it!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/10 01:20 | ID:eJnMBbSY
It’s unusual for the keyboardist to write the lyrics and the vocalist to compose the music. Miho is a little like Hitomi Manaka, though.
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ナナシ | 2002/06/10 16:26 | ID:e2OWZO/g
This thread is moving so slowly! Extremely slowly! Why? Is nobody watching, or do people not know? It’s Miho Komatsu and GARNET CROW. They’re already at the top of GIZA, right? I thought there would be lots of people who loved both, but apparently not. How sad.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/11 00:21 | ID:48qLFiqw
Miho Komatsu is still better, right? She sings better than Ayumi Hamasaki and Hikaru Utada, and she’s prettier.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/11 00:34 | ID:48qLFiqw
I think she’s also much better than Rina Aiuchi, ZARD, B’z, and the rest. Miho’s song quality is quite high. I think she’ll definitely appear on Kōhaku this year.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/11 00:36 | ID:48qLFiqw
>>26 Correction: Nishida → Utada. Typo…
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小松未歩のファン | 2002/06/11 02:35 | ID:.T6Jcx4.
>>25 That’s me. I love both Miho Komatsu and GARNET CROW. The two pillars of GIZA.
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| 2002/06/11 02:41 | ID:bUsTzvxs
Musically, I think both are top-tier within GIZA, but their singing is barely passing for both. Still, I like them a lot. In terms of singing, the mass-produced top tier is probably Aiuchi and Maho (is she still around?)
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名無しのロケット | 2002/06/11 10:09 | ID:YmtgG/Vc
>>29 Agreed—baldly. >>30 I agree with the second half. How well someone sings and whether you like that artist don’t necessarily match.
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ナナシ | 2002/06/11 13:39 | ID:zMyJ9Q.6
You’re very level-headed. Liking an artist can easily make you lose objectivity. Maybe this is the right approach, but following one path all the way is refreshing too.
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小松未歩のファン | 2002/06/12 14:43 | ID:6KzwodrY
>>31 Agreed. The media often promotes people by saying their singing is (・∀・) good, but the major artists aren’t necessarily that great vocally. Also, artists who attract attention by making vocal ability their selling point disappear before you know it…
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| 2002/06/12 15:10 | ID:I62I76hE
I like both Miho Komatsu and GARNET CROW quite a lot, and I think their lyrics and music are good. I don’t like recent Miho Komatsu very much… the first album is the best. I get tired of GARNET CROW’s albums as I listen (I only listen to the songs I like), whereas I can listen to Komatsu’s all the way through. That’s why I prefer Komatsu. Aiuchi’s two albums also have no filler tracks, so I think they’re good. But in terms of looks, Miho Komatsu is better.
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小松未歩のファン | 2002/06/12 17:18 | ID:XuhTMHJQ
>>34 It’s (・∀・) good to use many different arrangers, after all. Using the same person constantly makes the songs lose variety. It’s rare for arrangers to have such a large effect on an artist. Aiuchi has become prettier lately too. I can listen to the albums by Miho Komatsu, GARNET CROW, and Aiuchi from beginning to end.
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大賀 | 2002/06/12 23:30 | ID:0vRP5T0c
[ASCII art preserved from the original.] I vote for Miho Komatsu!
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小松未歩原理主義 | 2002/06/13 01:03 | ID:A3DkrlZY
GC’s vocalist sings in such a muffled way that it’s uncomfortable. The songs are merely okay too.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/13 01:14 | ID:LFxloYeg
The issue isn’t singing ability, nor the expressiveness of the lyrics or melodies. It’s simply whether the songs they make suit your taste. That’s all.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/13 18:29 | ID:dXFgAoeY
Miho Komatsu’s songs are several times more difficult. I think her singing ability is about the same as Kohmi Hirose’s.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/13 19:08 | ID:CFagN9rk
>>39 http://music.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicj/1022148950/l50 According to this thread, the singing rankings are: G — Kohmi Hirose I — Yuri Nakamura J — Miho Komatsu, and so on. Everyone ranks so low.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/14 00:14 | ID:qgK6kcRs
I feel like Miho Komatsu’s and Azumi Uehara’s vocal timbres are very similar.
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名探偵小宮山 | 2002/06/14 00:38 | ID:rnSZa/Dk
[ASCII art preserved from the original.] I vote for Detective Komiyama!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/14 18:20 | ID:HfOHAFiA
I wonder which is older, Miho Komatsu or Yuri Nakamura??
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/14 18:26 | ID:y8Db05D.
>>39–40 That’s strange no matter how you look at it. I was saying that Kohmi Hirose sings better.
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| 2002/06/14 19:12 | ID:sZc9IlG6
As for age: AZUKI ≧ Komatsu > Nakamura. That’s how I remember it.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/15 12:02 | ID:L3OIh8b6
!!!!! Miho Komatsu !!!!!!!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/15 17:40 | ID:Ye0Rg21s
Yuri Nakamura looks young. Are Miho Komatsu and AZUKI Nana around 25?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/15 17:56 | ID:RzHbHXr.
If anything, Nakamura is 25 this year. Komatsu and AZUKI are older than her.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/16 11:59 | ID:MlAR2yjg
Komatsu has a history of using a vocoder, right?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/17 00:08 | ID:F1CRbSNI
What is a vocoder? Komatsu has tremendous technique and talent. She’s amazing, right???
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/17 00:08 | ID:F1CRbSNI
>>42 Who is this person?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/17 15:45 | ID:yv2qfKWA
Miho Komatsu.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/18 14:47 | ID:jbemrB5I
Miho’s rock.
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LITTLE PINE ◆V2VvBe3I | 2002/06/19 01:44 | ID:lrki3e4U
Give gentle rock back to Miho Komatsu >> GARNET CROW.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/19 17:18 | ID:.X7aBrvI
I don’t dislike GARNET, but I like “call my name” more. For Miho, I like the sustained note in the chorus of “regret.”
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/21 06:15 | ID:e4wdbR4k
Go, Miho!!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/21 06:38 | ID:KS5Jfbzo
“Garnet Hardship” made me think the singer was Conan-kun for a moment. Is it nasal, or should I call it a distinctive voice?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/21 17:28 | ID:A4Wflx5g
Minami Takayama?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/22 05:38 | ID:Rfp05ZeQ
I thought the same thing the first time I heard them.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/23 17:23 | ID:2WIN1.pc
Miho Komatsu really is great.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/24 13:37 | ID:iig4G2cU
>>21 “Mysterious phantom, close your eyes, you’re the very first person I remember. Watching the dancing lights, I won’t forget—ahh, the mystery is being solved~♪” Not bad.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/25 19:08 | ID:EwAXr.qk
>>21 Over a thousand wishes.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/25 21:43 | ID:I1JL9rwg
Who has that many wishes?w So greedyww
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/25 21:50 | ID:EJsP1YRo
Rocket standing on ice.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/25 22:55 | ID:doBBaLwA
>>60 Pervert.
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名無しのロケット | 2002/06/27 01:19 | ID:D3VC67d6
>>21 Keep running by the shortest route until I reach your house.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/28 18:18 | ID:qEZk3dRE
>>21 “Sparkle dance.”
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LITTLE PINE ◆V2VvBe3I | 2002/06/28 21:31 | ID:NsBVAqDw
>>21 GARNET CROW and Miho Komatsu (the Being girls).
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/28 23:14 | ID:/OSkpbYg
I’m an Azumi Uehara fan, but lately I’ve started thinking GARNET CROW and Miho Komatsu are pretty good too.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 00:17 | ID:werHJubo
What’s good about Azumi Uehara?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 02:28 | ID:2Ag4YOyY
There’s a super beautiful woman in GARNET CROW…
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69 | 2002/06/29 02:49 | ID:PJgzfhb.
>>70 I was praising her, and this is the reply I get?
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| 2002/06/29 03:12 | ID:sP3TGnks
>71 Don’t worry about it. This is 2ch.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 09:52 | ID:xn39sfJQ
Miho really is beautiful.
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LITTLE PINE ◆V2VvBe3I | 2002/06/29 14:04 | ID:NCY9Z1n6
>>68 the★tambourines and Arisa Tsujio (the Amemura O-Town girls)—is that no good?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 14:58 | ID:qw3J/l.I
>>68 It’s at least somewhat interesting.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 16:18 | ID:BtuTevFE
The rumor among fans is that AZUKI Nana is 29 and Yuri Nakamura is 24. But it’s only a rumor.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 16:20 | ID:V3wDCDi.
There’s also a rumor that Aika Ohno is 22…
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 16:23 | ID:BtuTevFE
With GARNET CROW songs, even if your first reaction is “Hmm?…,” there are many songs you gradually get hooked on after a few listens.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 16:31 | ID:hS2VYLFQ
>77 Yuri Nakamura being 24 came from animal fortune-telling and her birthday, didn’t it?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/29 17:40 | ID:J6ki2ZEI
Yuri Nakamura’s age of 24 was publicly announced.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 11:16 | ID:bcH1R89I
>>78 Isn’t Ohno 25 or 26? No matter how old she is, with that face… She brought out a face that shouldn’t be shown in public.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 15:08 | ID:brvzFZhg
>>82 Is Ohno’s appearance really that bad? I thought she looked fairly decent in the album advertisement.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 15:32 | ID:f6Bm6uTk
>>82 You shouldn’t say things like that.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 15:43 | ID:PiYTViUM
Was it last month’s J*GM?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 22:44 | ID:bcH1R89I
>>83 I was fooled by the album advertisement at first too. >>85 That’s right. J*GM is a GIZA (or rather, entire Being) trade magazine, but it seems to show artists’ nearly makeup-free faces. That bizarre, insect-like face… it’s creepy.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 22:46 | ID:hIu/RSso
There’s no need to go that far… though I don’t like Ohno either.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 23:22 | ID:rl68zl6s
>>82 >>86 [ASCII art preserved from the original.]
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 23:22 | ID:rl68zl6s
>>82 >>86 [The same ASCII art as post 88, repeated verbatim in the source.]
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 23:23 | ID:rl68zl6s
>>82 >>86 [The same ASCII art as post 88, repeated verbatim in the source.]
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82=86 | 2002/06/30 23:25 | ID:bcH1R89I
>>88 >>89 Pistol Miffy, don’t you think Ohno’s face is disgusting?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/06/30 23:28 | ID:Ym/9piRw
>>82 = 86 You’re the disgusting one.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/01 23:55 | ID:ovOeSfjQ
[ASCII art preserved from the original.] Huh? >>91.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/02 17:08 | ID:bOoPmyMw
[ASCII art preserved from the original.] We are the vicious bumping brothers! Even with no topic today, we’ll bump this thread!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/02 18:18 | ID:binulcZQ
[ASCII art preserved from the original.] We are the vicious bumping brothers! Even with no topic today, we’ll bump this thread!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/02 20:38 | ID:pW0ATvHg
At least use text. The ASCII art is so long it’s painfully embarrassing to look at.
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浅岡U也 | 2002/07/03 01:35 | ID:ejyyA4c6
This kind of thread is no good. Both sides make remarkably good music, so go post in each artist’s dedicated thread instead.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/03 20:19 | ID:9mjiOAbE
Komatsu sings well and is cute!!
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/03 20:45 | ID:W9OgTGtc
>>97 I’m a GARNET CROW fan, but honestly, this thread is hard to approach…
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/03 21:38 | ID:8SOluHpI
>>97 is right. The Japanese music board rules also say one thread per artist. >>99 is being selfish.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/03 22:27 | ID:jCpfkxJ.
That thread constantly belittles other artists, and longtime fans get furious reading it.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/03 23:46 | ID:Ud4MUzrM
>>101 People have said that before and started a separate thread outside this one. Either way, the fact that this violates the Japanese music board rules is indisputable. As for “constantly belittling other artists,” this thread is no different.
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101 | 2002/07/04 00:27 | ID:Wi.DzbFg
>>102 I was only venting in this thread, and you have a point. I basically don’t write about GARNET CROW on 2ch.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/05 17:42 | ID:VEwYGWDQ
Ah… it hurts, it hurts, it hurts.
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浅岡U也 | 2002/07/06 02:27 | ID:HvSsbvW6
I see. After reading this thread, I can understand what >>99 and >>101 said. >>100’s statement is also indisputable. One thing is clear: the online world is vast. In other words, 2ch isn’t the only place where GARNET CROW fans can communicate.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/07 12:22 | ID:xYFf6dRs
Does Miho Komatsu have lots of profile shots in her PVs?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/07 15:39 | ID:Yw7aFkH2
Because Komatsu is computer-generated.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/07 19:03 | ID:4aINCArI
Because Komatsu is going to join GC.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/07 19:56 | ID:fo5x2bkk
We already said we don’t need someone like Komatsu. And stop bumping this lousy thread on purpose, idiot.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/08 20:58 | ID:HCJW3PaU
GC’s lyrics are good.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/08 21:05 | ID:bPrg.dkE
>>110 Redirect: http://music.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicj/1024495537/l50
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/09 00:52 | ID:iaTTuuKY
Anyway, GC is garbage.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/09 13:05 | ID:tzIcFJLw
Bump for GIZA.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/10 17:48 | ID:8ijn2jck
Someone said I look like Komatsu.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/10 18:16 | ID:Gy7vAvFY
>>114 Miho Komatsu Midori?
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/11 12:47 | ID:nja5ixm.
O-Matsu.
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名無しのエリー | 2002/07/12 18:07 | ID:o8ZAGGWU
Bump.