【未完成な】 GARNET CROW part.246 【音色】

■ Official website GARNET CROW official homepage: http://garnetcrow.com/ ☆ Eighth album, "parallel universe," goes on sale Wednesday, December 8, 2010! Track list: ・Over Drive ・空に花火 ・As the Dew〜album ver.〜 ・今日と明日と ・tell me something ・アオゾラ カナタ ・渚とシークレットデイズ Eleven tracks are scheduled in total. [First-press limited edition with DVD] 3,500 yen (tax included), GZCA-5230 [Regular edition] 3,059 yen (tax included), GZCA-5231 ★ GARNET CROW livescope 2010 + — welcome to the parallel universe — has been announced! ・December 12 (Sun), Osaka / Grand Cube Osaka Main Hall ・December 24 (Fri), Aichi / Nagoya City Public Hall Main Hall ・December 26 (Sun), Tokyo / Tokyo International Forum Hall A ※ See the official website for details. <<※ Notes ※>> ◆ Do not cause trouble for other people. ◆ Do not expose or discuss other artists. In particular, all discussion of Arashi and other Johnny's artists is prohibited. ◆ Rumors will only make people dislike you, so don't spread them. ◆ Completely ignore trolls, delusional posts, and perverted posts. ◆ Do not paste virus code or long copied material. ◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. Adding a subtitle tends to cause confusion, so it is best to avoid one. ■ Previous thread GARNET CROW part.245 http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1285674150/

This is the dedicated thread for GARNET CROW fans and for Johnny's-related content such as Arashi, Hey!Say!JUMP, NYC, B.I.Shadow, and NEWS.

You don't even understand that adding a subtitle causes confusion? Idiot.

>>1 If you have a problem with me, come say it to my face.

Thanks for starting the thread. We don't need a subtitle, right? lol

The time has come for >>1 to vanish.

The nationwide tour accompanying the eighth album, "parallel universe," has been announced! ■ December 12 (Sun) — Osaka / Grand Cube Osaka Main Hall (Osaka International Convention Center) Time: OPEN 17:00 / START 18:00 ■ December 24 (Fri) — Aichi / Nagoya City Public Hall Main Hall Time: OPEN 18:30 / START 19:00 ■ December 26 (Sun) — Tokyo / Tokyo International Forum Hall A Time: OPEN 17:00 / START 18:00

>>1 Good job starting the thread. Sorry, but this subtitle-added garbage thread is going to sink.

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This is the real thread.

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>>115 Are you asleep already?

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Good morning.

It feels like a mentally ill person is emerging. What's going on?

[Original plan] ・Album release in early November ・Nationwide tour at the end of November ・New Year's Eve concert ↓ [Revised plan] ・Because of Kura○, the album release was moved to early December. ・They couldn't start the tour before release, so venues were rebooked for the end of December. → After the budget and schedule were rearranged, only three venues remained. ・Because the tour was postponed, the New Year's plan was scrapped. Because of Kura●, the Sapporo and Fukuoka shows are gone...

>>129 So there won't be a Mochi mochi-rice-cake event at New Year's either?!

The application form for the tour's advance reservation still hasn't arrived in Tochigi. Could it be a postal accident??

Probably an Ibaraki conspiracy.

Well, it's better than having no tour at all. Do the Osaka and Tokyo shows end at 9, and Nagoya at 10? It's nice that the shows finish early in places people have to travel to.

A genuine shut-in.

>>131 It arrived today! But Osaka also received it pretty late!

I'm really looking forward to the new album.

The nationwide tour accompanying the eighth album, "parallel universe," has been decided! February: Sapporo, Fukuoka, Hiroshima shows March: Miyagi, Osaka (additional show) I'll make a prediction.

The Osaka additional show is hugely popular.

At this point, that's impossible.

>>139 Since they called it a nationwide tour, they should at least add Fukuoka and Sapporo. Otherwise the name \"nationwide tour\" is misleading, isn't it?

Isn't the gap between shows too long for a tour?

>>140 It's fine. Everything outside Tokyo–Nagoya–Osaka counts as overseas anyway. ...That includes where I live, lol.

Daily single chart: No. 1 → No. 2: 8,717.

The B-side, Time Capsule, is godlike.

Arashi Million JET. Tokyo–the northern lands, Tokyo–takoyaki country, Tokyo–mentaiko country: all routes are running!!

I think so too.

Osaka and Nagoya alone are enough.

Pussy.

The two-hour VS Arashi special has started, lol. I'm looking forward to the new game segment too, lol.

Daily single chart: No. 2 → No. 2: 7,499.

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I want to lick pussy.

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This one survived after all...

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Speaking of Yurippe, has she been divorced once?

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Speaking of Yurippe, was it a one-time punishment?

Why did this turn into a fight? I don't understand what is going on.

>>185 Unmarried.

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It's time to report this.

You did this around spring this year too, didn't you? Haven't you started working yet?

Pussy.

Lick, lick.

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This is the dedicated thread for GARNET CROW fans and for Johnny's-related content such as Arashi, Hey!Say!JUMP, NYC, B.I.Shadow, and NEWS.

What? This Arashi thing?

My vote goes to Yurippe.

Kintaro.

I haven't been here in a while, and I laughed when I saw how chaotic it had become.

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It looks like they're watching this thread. How should I put it...?

This isn't a GARNET CROW fan thread. It's the dedicated thread for Johnny's-related content such as Arashi, Hey!Say!JUMP, NYC, B.I.Shadow, and NEWS.

>>212 You don't have to post the same thing several times, lol. Tomorrow is Gane's fan-club event, yet this thread is so quiet. It's sad. Please write a report afterward!

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>>212 Are you plotting something? lol

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Even though everyone has already figured out this guy is a shut-in, he still cares about the time and keeps disrupting things, lol.

Hey, today's Pai-touch group, write something already. This is boring.

>>220 If you go over to the other thread, the discussion is still going on. http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1286806066/l50

High-touch (Hai Touch) is the best.

Yurippe is super wonderful.

By the way, this is actually the real thread, right?

I'm the one who loves Johnny's who created this thread; this is the real thread! That's right! This is the thread for GARNET CROW fans and for discussing Johnny's-related acts such as Arashi, Hey! Say! JUMP, NYC, B.I. Shadow, and NEWS.

>>225 Who would use a thread you created like this?! Though by writing this, I suppose I'm using it, lol.

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Nothing but idiots—a complete mess, lol.

>>225 It's the thread you created. You really are an abnormal person, no doubt.

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Wow.

This thread is for GARNET CROW fans and for discussing Johnny's-related acts such as Arashi, Hey! Say! JUMP, NYC, B.I. Shadow, and NEWS.

Yumatan on Music Station... That hairstyle makes their head look huge. That cute, cute smile is the best!

>>238 >>239 I came rushing over on the express train, lol, but hey, enough already!! Stop pretending to be Johnny's fans without permission, lol. After turning the thread into this, are you actually anti-GARNET!? Antis, go back to your own nest, lol. Idiots.

>>239 Before I knew it, lol.

Yurippe is absolutely the best.

The board over there has been wrecked, lol. I really wish you would stop, people who disrupt threads. Daily album ranking 　　　　　　　　/ 4th place Daily single ranking 2nd 2nd 2nd 2nd 2nd → 2nd place　4,752

I went to the trouble of writing such a detailed fan-club report. It was frustrating, so I'll post the GARNET SHOPPING ringtone again. http://b.pic.to/y9zn7

Yurippe, keep doing your best. Please keep it up.

This thread is for GARNET CROW fans and for discussing Johnny's-related acts such as Arashi, Hey! Say! JUMP, NYC, B.I. Shadow, and NEWS. I created it, so please use it with care!

On Music Station the other day, who were the two people in school uniforms dancing in the back? If anyone knows, please tell me.

Weren't they just unknown Jr. members? I'm impressed you can remember the dance moves, lol. Even now, I still can't remember JINUN, Shadow Boy, or Screen, lol.

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Do not use a subtitle [a thread with a subtitle will not be considered the successor thread]. (Repeated 57 times.)

Do not use a subtitle [a thread with a subtitle will not be considered the successor thread]. (Repeated 57 times.)

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True thread stopper: You can't post it, can you? (￣ー￣) [smirk]

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The album is selling pretty well, lol. Great!

People who write unusually detailed event reports on personal blogs—do they write down everything from the event?

I can't even remember the setlist order. Did they take notes...? I hope that's what happened.

Secretly, with a voice recorder...

Yurippe, keep doing your best.

GARNET CROW part.247 http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1287405332/

Yurippe, keep doing your best.

I bought TV Japan because Arashi was on the cover. The “close relationships chart” was so cute, lol.

Nino's drama starts at 9 tonight, lol. I'm really looking forward to the drama, of course, but I'm also super excited to see what kind of scenes the theme song, “Hatenai Sora,” will accompany, lol. The lyrics fit the drama's story so well. It's truly a very moving song.

Ohno seems to have put on a little weight? He's so cute, like a stuffed bear, lol. I want to put him on the sofa in my living room.

The drama is about to start, lol. I'm super, super excited, lol.

Yaaay— q(≧∇≦*)(*≧∇≦)p —Nino is so handsome, lol.

I want to have sex with Nino.

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Originally, I can completely understand why this thread would be considered the real one. But I think the problem is that the “※Notes※” established from past experience—when threads with subtitles caused the thread to be disrupted—was ignored. It says, “◆Adding a subtitle may cause trouble, so it is safer not to add one,” yet this new thread was created anyway. When creating the next thread from the previous thread's >>950, nobody even asked whether everyone agreed that a subtitle could be added. Come to think of it, the template saying “the person who creates the next thread is >>950” is strange in itself. It should be changed. Things that are bound to cause trouble really should be eliminated. Otherwise, we'll make the same mistake again someday. It's only 2ch, but if you're going to post in a GC thread, residents should follow the rules. Trading insults gets us nowhere. To put an end to this situation as soon as possible, calling it a debate may be too grand, but it would be better to exchange constructive opinions. If you think it's fine to let things continue like this, that's okay too. Sorry for the long post.

>>272 You caused a huge fuss and made a bunch of duplicate threads simply because you don't like threads with subtitles, and now you say, “It might cause trouble in the future”? What kind of logic is that? Where did the troublemaker's responsibility go? What are you saying, people who are going along with the troublemaker? 2ch's rules prohibit creating duplicate threads. It's only 2ch, but if you're going to post on 2ch, residents should follow the rules.

>>273 I'm not going along with the troublemakers, and I'm not covering for the person who made duplicate threads. Don't you understand that the reason for the trouble is that >>1 of this thread violated the GC thread's rules?

For now, let's use this thread, but how about banning threads with subtitles from now on as a punishment for the troublemakers? If we can't reach a consensus, the threads will split, so I'd like to get everyone's agreement.

What can I say? This is like a gangster telling you, “Be careful walking alone at night.” The root of the problem is the person who deliberately created a duplicate thread in order to cause trouble. The residents who use the thread created that way are protecting that person. That includes >>272, who doesn't realize it. Using that person's thread means going along with and protecting them. You say you can “completely understand” it, but also that it is “bad”? That alone makes no sense. If you are attacked while walking alone at night, would you say it was bad because you were careless? >>274 You can't even produce a log of the GC thread's rules, so what are you talking about when you say they were violated? If there are rules, just post the log of the discussion along with them. Anyone too lazy to do even that has no right to blame >>1 of this thread. If the regulars don't like it, they should move and create their own thread. Write “no newcomers,” or something like that, in >>1.

>>275 This thread was the first one to be disrupted. If you're going to impose a punishment, how about imposing it on the anti-subtitle camp?

>>276 I never posted in the duplicate thread. That would violate 2ch's rules. As for the GC thread's rules, aren't they written in the part.245 >>1 template? I'm not a longtime regular; I just want to restore this abnormal situation to normal. It's really unfortunate that I can't get that intention across.

>>278 > “It's really unfortunate that I can't get that intention across.” I'll give that exact sentence right back to you. To restore the situation to normal, all you have to do is exclude the troublemaker. It's simple. However you look at it, the troublemaker is the idiot after >>8–9. So just cut off that person's hopes. There's even less reason to grant their wishes.

>>277 Considering the trouble caused in the past, there is no room for leniency. So can the subtitle camp explain whether the benefits of adding a subtitle outweigh the damage caused by the trouble? You should make that clear.

>>279 > To restore the situation to normal, all you have to do is exclude the troublemaker. It's simple. Isn't it precisely because excluding the troublemaker is difficult that we keep making the same mistake? If excluding the troublemaker is so simple, please tell me the method and means.

Even if it's only about minor details, I'd still like to hear more opinions from other people. I accidentally stayed up late. Anyway, good night.

As long as we can speak freely, I don't care whether there is a subtitle or not. I didn't expect there to be people this petty. I'm surprised. This is 2ch, after all.

I think so too. Don't make a fuss over something as trivial as disliking the thread title. Why not just chat freely in the thread that already exists? Creating duplicate threads is the stupidest thing.

>>280 I'm not talking about the past. Rather, I want to know the reason for showing leniency toward >>8–9. >>281 Ignore them completely. Even though countermeasures could be taken by leaving them alone, some idiot keeps responding to them, so we can't even file a trouble report. >>283–284 Agreed.

>>285 I'm not the troublemaker, so I don't know. I'm only asking the subtitle camp, who wants to solve the problem through troublemaking, to explain themselves.

Wow, you keep going on and on even though you can't offer a solution. I'm jealous of people with so much free time, lol.

The battle of the idiots. Subtitle or no subtitle, it doesn't matter. Use the one that was created first. That's all.

I've always thought it was strange that there are so many troublemakers among the Arashi fans, the perverts, and so on. Are those people using the duplicate-thread commotion as an excuse to cause trouble? I really wish you'd spare me. I just want to talk about GARNET CROW normally. GARNET CROW isn't even that famous, honestly, so what exactly are they unhappy about? Are they fans of another Being artist?

Whether there is a subtitle or not, it is only natural to use the thread that was created first. According to the board rules, each group can have only one thread. Because the first thread had a subtitle, the side that created another thread later is 100% completely in the wrong. Didn't the deletion moderator also say before that people should not create another thread? In other threads, everyone naturally does this without having to say it explicitly. For some reason, only the people in this thread don't understand something so basic. The anti-subtitle camp is always the one that creates the spark for trouble. Just like the idiot in >>8 of this thread.

Even though it's repetitive. >>286 > I'm only asking the subtitle camp, who wants to solve the problem through troublemaking, to explain themselves. The people trying to solve the problem through troublemaking are the anti-subtitle camp, aren't they? Go look at >>8.

Six of one, half a dozen of the other.

You all seem to think your own solution is far superior and the best one, but from my perspective, this is just six of one and half a dozen of the other.

I understand now that there really are factions—or perhaps fixations—called the subtitle camp and the anti-subtitle camp. If that's the case, then please respect one another.

>>291 That's why I said I don't know—I wasn't >>8. Also, the thread being disrupted now and the thread that has been disrupted all along are ordinary threads. I'm asking the people on the troublemaker's side to explain themselves. I agree that using the thread created first is common sense. But if the rules remain ambiguous, trouble will inevitably continue in the future. It would be fine to add a subtitle, but let's establish that it must be discussed and agreed upon in advance.

>>295 I never said you were >>8. I only said that because >>275 says, “As a punishment for causing trouble, ban subtitles,” and that logic is strange. If the troublemaker—>>8—is to be punished, the result should actually be the opposite. The punishment for >>8 should be to allow subtitles. In any case, I don't think any punishment is necessary, nor is prior discussion or agreement. Just use the thread that was created first. Why did this turn into a discussion about needing consultation and consent in the first place?

I am the >>272 in this thread, that is, ID:InBESz4+0. Thank you all for your opinions. As long as there are subtitle-opposing lunatics like >>8 in the GC thread, I still hope that people creating threads in the future will avoid adding subtitles whenever possible. Incidentally, I was the person who created the previous thread, GARNET CROW part.245, and I didn't add a subtitle then either. I wanted to avoid the possibility of being harassed by the anti-subtitle camp. I've had enough of this kind of development. I only wanted to chat and exchange information with GARNET CROW fans. That's all.

>>297 That's completely meaningless. Just ignore the lunatic; anyone who can't do that is simply an idiot. There's no need to give in to a lunatic.

>>295 Exactly. Come to think of it, the root of this argument is that someone added an unpleasant subtitle, which caused an argument and a disturbance. That person kept adding subtitles and causing trouble again and again, so it's about time we established a clear rule. But for now, we should aim to consolidate the threads. If this argument continues, it will be exactly what the troublemaker wants.

Under 2ch's rules, we should simply continue using the thread that was created first chronologically. Whether it has a subtitle or not is unrelated. That should be left to the person creating the thread.

>>299 > adding subtitles again and again and causing trouble The person causing trouble isn't >>1; it's >>8.

The idiots who think “adding a subtitle = causing trouble and making people uncomfortable” are causing trouble by creating duplicate threads. People who say such stupid things are probably found only among the residents of this thread.

The anti-subtitle camp is always the one that violates the thread-creation rules.

>>298 I understand that there's no need to give in to a lunatic, but isn't the side that keeps repeating the same mistake even more foolish?

16　Name: Stopped... [Stopped]　Posting date: Stopped True thread stopper... (￣ー￣) [smirk]

Huh?

>>304 Just don't repeat the mistake, then. Ignore them completely and file a trouble report.

【Let's】SPEED thread Vol.21【Heat Up!】 http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1287160249/ 【New album】BRIGHT【solo thread】 http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1265474653/ 【July 7】RYTHEM / Rhythm 33【7th-anniversary concert】 http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1276252177/ I only took a rough look at the board and could easily find threads with subtitles. Did these people create duplicate threads just because those threads had subtitles and thereby violate the board rules? There are too many clueless idiots among the residents of the GARNET thread.

You're still going on about this? lol

Just use the thread that was created first. That's how every artist's thread works.

Exactly. It's that simple. It wasn't something worth making complicated in the first place.

If ignoring the anti-subtitle camp completely will solve it, then let's do that. As >>299 said, continuing this argument is exactly what the troublemaker wants.

>>312 All you have to do is ignore the lunatic.

>>310–311 Got it!

Do the people who support subtitles not know what happened before? It started when someone added a subtitle like “I love Yurippe” and caused trouble. After that, whenever that troublemaker created a thread with a subtitle, trouble was guaranteed. I also oppose creating duplicate threads for no reason. I also think completely rejecting subtitles from the outset is not ideal. From a neutral standpoint, the worst outcome is for the permissive and prohibitive camps to polarize and wear each other down. So I think we should establish a clear rule saying that subtitles require consent. I believe a major reason for the anti-subtitle camp's strong backlash is that a thread with a subtitle was created without any discussion at all.

>>313 I'm ID:InBESz4+0. Got it!

>>315 If we do that, the anti-subtitle camp probably won't agree at all; they'll furiously post objections. It will probably cause trouble all over again. So I think leaving the decision to the person creating the thread is the most realistic approach.

Around post 900, just bring up proposals for the next subtitle. There won't be any other topic anyway—only perverted topics, right?

>>317 But if we are content to maintain the status quo, it will inevitably turn into another fight like this one. I think the problem may always be that someone creates a thread unilaterally without discussion. So I propose allowing subtitles on the condition that consent is obtained before the thread is created. What if someone other than the troublemaker created a thread with a subtitle like this? The anti-subtitle camp might be able to accept it to some extent. In the end, what everyone hates is the thread created by the troublemaker, isn't it?

>>319 You say, “What people hate is the thread created by the troublemaker,” but however you look at it, >>1 here isn't the troublemaker. Even so, >>8 is still causing trouble, which shows that isn't the reason.

No, >>1 here is the kind of person who causes trouble every time nobody uses the thread they created themselves.

That iPhone user is trying way too hard. Are they restricted to the mobile version because they're blocked on a computer? lol

>>322 An ID ending in P means they're using P2, the browser dedicated to mobile 2ch.

>>321 That's just your own baseless speculation. In reality, the troublemaker in this thread is >>8, while the person who created the duplicate thread is a troublemaker who made another thread because they didn't like the title.

I don't know who >>8 is now.

This is late, but I'm reporting it anyway. On the way home after the event, I masturbated three times in the restroom at Nishi-Umeda Station. It felt great, Yurippe.

Honestly, discussing the thread title is still better than disgusting posts.

Nino's drama is so good, lol. Looking forward to next week, lol.

Today is Himitsu no Arashi-chan!

Don't forget to watch VS Arashi too!!

When I think about people of all ages—from their teens to maybe their fifties or sixties— desperately doing this in front of their screens... (^v^) I feel like we don't need the GARNET thread itself for a while. (^v^) lol

>>331 I've always thought the same thing. Perverts and Johnny's fans never disappear, so maybe we should stop creating threads for a while.

>>331–332 You don't have to force yourself to come here. Bye-bye.

(^з^)-☆

I've decided not to go to the next concert.

For the people who support subtitles: Would you say that even a thread titled 【Forcing it into Yurippe】 GARNET CROW 【Shoving it in】 is okay because it was created after >>950 and is therefore a valid thread?

I'm on the no-subtitle side, but I approve of a thread like that.

>>336 http://info.2ch.net/guide/adv.html#saku_guide > Deletion Guidelines > 7. Obscene / vulgar > Within 2ch > Excessive sexual content, sexual provocation, and vulgar topics are prohibited within 2ch. > Image links are treated the same way. All of these are subject to deletion without exception.

【Arashi JET】GARNET CROW part.247 【Popular and still running】

>>339 I see. In that case, no problem—it is a valid thread.

Why not add to the template that this thread is only for GARNET songs or concert-related information?

>>341 GARNET CROW is clearly written in the title. It's a valid thread that isn't subject to deletion, yet you want to ignore it? Are you planning to create another duplicate thread?

> Duplicate threads > Threads concerning the same matter or person are, in principle, subject to deletion even if there are minor individual differences. > In such cases, a comprehensive judgment is made based on the order of priority: when the thread was created, the time, what was written in the first post, and how many replies it has.

How long is this going to go onnnnnnnnn?!

Ugh.

> Duplicate threads > Threads concerning the same matter or person are, in principle, subject to deletion even if there are minor individual differences. > In such cases, a comprehensive judgment is made based on the order of priority: when the thread was created, the time, what was written in the first post, and how many replies it has. The duplicate threads that currently exist haven't been deleted, have they? Then there's no problem.

I had preordered the first-press limited edition of “parallel universe” from Amazon, but after learning that the regular edition includes “Over Drive ~theater version~” as a bonus track, I decided to cancel it. Personally, I find the bonus song more appealing than the bonus DVD. I'm really looking forward to it. This is the first time I've bought the regular edition of a GARNET album when a first-press limited edition was available. Anyway, since we've discussed it this much, we need to reach a clear conclusion, or there was no point! I'm being irresponsible, but I'm leaving the discussion entirely to you all and will respect the conclusion. The album news is out now, so it's about time we put the discussion to rest and get this thread lively again!

Sora ni Hanabi ~orchestra session~ People who bought Orlaba have been saved too. Great.

Isn't it about time the official website announced the track list for parallel universe?

http://www.tadasu.biz/bz/plagiarism/list.htm

>>347 Have you never considered buying both the first-press and regular editions? I'm just kidding—I'm buying the regular edition too. I'm skipping the first-press edition this time. The DVD will probably be released separately later anyway. Though there is a possibility it won't be... I don't know the clear conclusion of the discussion either. >>348 It really is a relief. I'm one of the people who bought Orlaba, after all. >>349 It should be announced soon, right?

I accidentally bumped the thread. Sorry. How about adding “◆Please post in sage mode whenever possible” to the notes in >>1? Just a proposal—you are welcome to reject it.

Oh, no! (^O^) The mobile site's homepage changed too, lol. It has such an autumn feel and is so cute!!

Nana Azuki is the best.

Just use the one that was created first. Anyone who pastes boilerplate because they don't like it should be treated as a troublemaker.

The once-every-two-years GARNET withdrawal period has arrived. See you all again in two years.

You can't withdraw from Nana Azuki, though. (;ﾟдﾟ)

>>355 Agreed.

Does anyone have a large version of the cover photo? What's up with Mochi (Hitoshi Okamoto)'s album cover? Mochi probably designed it, but it has absolutely no taste.

(・∀・) Hehe.

This album may determine whether GARNET survives. If sales are poor, they might keep only Mai Kuraki and cut GARNET, which would be unavoidable. I'm trembling.

“Use the one that was created first” isn't something that can solve this in practice. There are people who oppose that too. So I've proposed several times that we write in the template, “Subtitles require consent.” What does everyone think?

>>362 There are people who support it too, but haven't they been using threads without subtitles all along? There's no reason the opposing side can't do the same.

>>362 Then I suppose I agree. The subtitle fanatics are guilty of causing massive trouble up to now, while the people who hate subtitles are guilty of the bad habit of abusing the thread. Both sides have their own faults. >>363 Is this P the troublemaker? You're being way too biased toward the subtitle side, lol.

>>364 Are you >>8? You're being way too biased toward the anti-subtitle side.

>>362 That's what isn't realistic. First of all, what standard would be used for “consent”? Unanimous agreement is impossible, so would we take a majority vote? There's no need to make things that complicated. Why not just use the threads in the order they were created? If it's a thread with a subtitle, all the anti-subtitle side has to do is not cause trouble. If it has no subtitle, all the pro-subtitle side has to do is not cause trouble.

Subtitles aren't necessary at all. What's the benefit? That subtitle isn't for GARNET; it's for the person who came up with it. It's self-expression and self-satisfaction.

>>366 I proposed it precisely because we've had several fights like this. The anti-subtitle camp seems to dislike threads with subtitles being created without warning. If we discuss it first and then create the thread, things should calm down somewhat.

>>368 Would that actually have any effect? I can imagine the discussion dragging on all the way to post 1,000 without reaching agreement. Is the proposal something like this? Or should consent be obtained after post 950? <<※Notes※>> ◆ Do not cause trouble for other people. ◆ Do not expose or post content related to other artists, especially Arashi and Johnny's as a whole. ◆ False information causes annoyance, so do not post it. ◆ Completely ignore posts by troublemakers, delusional people, and perverts. ◆ Do not paste virus code or long boilerplate text. ◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. Discuss proposals for the next thread after >>900 and summarize them before >>950.

>>369 > ◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. Discuss proposals for the next thread after >>900 and summarize them before >>950. Anyone can restart their router and change their ID to stage a fake conversation, so isn't this meaningless?

>>370 I think so too. Looking forward to >>368.

Hey, Yurippe appeared on King's Brunch!

Seriously? lolololol

The legal hierarchy is the Constitution, laws (including ordinances), and customary law. Even though this thread had nearly 300 posts with no title as a matter of custom, this thread was created by breaking that custom. So even if you decide something here, it has absolutely no effect. That's what customary law means. At most, you can play-act among yourselves in this toilet-graffiti thread.

The claim is already nonsense because the factual premise that there had been no subtitles for nearly 300 posts is itself fabricated.

As someone who supports thread subtitles, I hope we can choose one of these: 【Arashi JET】GARNET CROW part.247 【Popular and still running】 【Arashi JET】GARNET CROW part.247 【I love Nino】 【Arashi JET】GARNET CROW part.247 【Junior Big Egg】

>>374 Isn't it because customary law no longer works that we're discussing making a law? The ban on creating duplicate threads is laid down in 2ch's constitution.

For people who don't want a thread subtitle, forcing them to consider whether the title has one is a waste of time. Under the theory of customary law, continuing without a subtitle is the natural thing to do. Even so, those who want to add a subtitle can add one themselves and create part.247. The no-subtitle side already brought part.246 to its conclusion, so the subtitle side should also honestly number its threads 246, 247, 248, and so on in sequence.

>>377 By the way, a law is a law in the literal sense, so anything decided in this thread cannot be called a law. It has no effect at all. What matters is the custom that has brought us this far without subtitles.

This thread is exclusively for GARNET CROW fans, and for content related to Johnny's acts such as Arashi, Hey! Say! JUMP, NYC, B.I. Shadow, and NEWS.

>>376 From Nino's fan perspective, this one is good: 【Arashi JET】GARNET CROW part.247 【I love Nino】

Nino's drama, Freeter, Ie o Kau, seems to be getting good reviews.

>>379 Rejected under 2ch's “one thread per artist” rule. Are you also the type who says the 2ch rules themselves “have absolutely no effect”?

Things have already become this chaotic, so saying “just don't cause trouble” clearly won't work. Wouldn't it be enough for the proposal from >>950 to receive a certain degree of understanding? Of course, it should be limited to appropriate subjects such as song titles or publicity. This time too, whatever kind of thread is going to be created, it needs to be proposed and discussed first. The problem is creating a thread unilaterally without any discussion.

>>376 There are fans here.

What do you think?

>>384 What kind of process do you specifically envision when you say “propose it, discuss it, and obtain understanding”? Do you intend for the residents to compile things among themselves before post 950, or for post 950 to make a proposal after post 950? Either way, I don't think it will work smoothly.

>>365 Don't you support subtitles? Why are you so fixated on subtitles?

This is how it used to go: Pervert adds a disgusting subtitle ↓ An ordinary thread is created ↓ The ordinary thread is disrupted ↓ People come to hate subtitles That's the cycle, right? lol First of all, there was never any trouble during the period without subtitles. If you say that having no subtitle allows things to settle peacefully, then yes, it does. More than that, the fact that people start a fight over something as minor as a subtitle shows perfectly that this is a battle of egos.

>>388 I don't care about subtitles themselves; I just think the logic that “the best way to avoid trouble is to obey >>8” is strange. If this continues, the believers will create a bizarre space that says “no newcomers.” It feels like that is already gradually taking shape, and honestly, I don't like that atmosphere. >>389 No, that's not right. Objectively, it went like this: Thread with a subtitle is created ↓ Thread without a subtitle is created ↓ The thread with a subtitle is disrupted ↓ The thread without a subtitle is disrupted ↓ Chaos

The Chunichi Dragons are on their way to winning.

>>389 By the way, is the subtitle of this thread really that disgusting?

Go, Chunichi Dragons!

This thread is exclusively for GARNET CROW fans, and for cheering on the Chunichi Dragons and related topics involving Wada, Blanco, Yamamoto Masa, Tanishige, Ochiai, and others.

>>390 Ah, then you must be new. >>389 was talking about the pattern that started around six months ago. If you had been here then, you would have experienced it differently.

I can't accept the fact that SoftBank won't make it to the Japan Series.

>>390 This is the first time a thread with a subtitle has been disrupted. Probably some idiot did it to get revenge for all the things the subtitle fanatics have done up to now.

>>395 I have the logs for part.239, but it doesn't seem like things got that heated. >>397 Come to think of it, the timing of the second thread being created was itself rather questionable.

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It seems best to keep ignoring this P. The discussion will get complicated. As I see it, the only people desperately insisting on subtitles are this person and the lunatic troublemaker.

>>398 Ah, I was just speaking loosely about the date. Anyway, if we approve subtitles as things stand, that amounts to obeying the perverted troublemaker. We shouldn't unilaterally force the anti-subtitle side to put up with it.

There was a very similar development about six months ago. There had been one before that too. This may be the first time the commotion has become this large. 【In progress】GARNET CROW part.231 【On tour】 http://logsoku.com/thread/toki.2ch.net/musicjg/1267935098/ GARNET CROW part.231 http://mimizun.com/log/2ch/musicjg/1267939581/ There may be others.

>>401 Based on your loose wording, we shouldn't unilaterally force the pro-subtitle side to put up with it either. There is no rule saying >>950 must add a subtitle.

>>402 Come to think of it, why was the thread below created in the first place? That subtitle doesn't look perverted either. Could it be that the anti-subtitle camp is simply acting arbitrarily?

So, does it work to say that creating a thread with a subtitle requires prior discussion? Any thread created unilaterally would be considered invalid.

>>405 >>387

>>404 I only brought it up as evidence because the development was similar.

Isn't the point of adding a subtitle simply for >>1's masturbation? I'd like to ask why it is absolutely necessary to add one. If it isn't absolutely necessary, then don't add a subtitle.

You newcomers may think that the pro- and anti-subtitle camps have split this thread in half, but in reality, the only people desperately trying to add subtitles are >>1 of this thread and P. Most people don't care either way. In fact, before >>1 of this thread appeared about six months ago, there had never even been a discussion about subtitles.

Reference material: 【Dorothy fans】GARNET CROW 113【Yurippe fans】 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1123330858/ 【Moe witches】GARNET CROW 115【Yurippe】 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1124640778/ GARNET CROW part.115 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1124648687/ 【Dream】GARNET CROW part.144【Fireworks】 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1146294371/ 【A hundred years of】GARNET CROW part.200【loneliness】 http://mamono.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1225002006/ GARNET CROW part.200 http://mamono.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1225178264/ 【Silent】GARNET CROW part.239【Kiss】 http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1276171617/ GARNET CROW part.239 http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1276187451/ There may be others.

>>405 This is about as good as we can get. ◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. ◆ If you want to create a thread with a subtitle, propose it first and discuss it. The content must be appropriate. P seems unwilling to make any compromise of their own. It's about time they gave up their ego.

>>409 I'm >>390. >>410 Personally, I find the top two threads “disgusting,” but they are already five years old. How long are you going to drag this out?

Ban subtitles = arrogance → discuss and decide it in the previous thread → nothing can be decided. So what exactly do you want? Come up with P's solution, lol!

>>412 Someone even brought up an eight-year-old example. I only brought them up because I thought it was useful to see the flow of events at the time, regardless of how long ago it was. If you don't think they have any reference value, you can ignore them.

Why not leave it to whoever reaches post 950, as in other threads?

>>411 Thanks. As for the discussion, let's proceed by considering the benefits and necessity.

>>413 Leave everything to the conscience of whoever reaches 950. If someone wants to propose something before creating the thread at 950, they can do so. People who don't care can simply say nothing.

>>417 What if the person who wins the race to post 950 in the previous thread adds a subtitle like 【Dorothy fans】GARNET CROW 113【Yurippe fans】? Would you just leave it alone?

That's exactly how things get turned into a chaotic mess.

>>412 > I don't care what the subtitle itself is, but I think the logic that “the best way to avoid trouble is to obey >>8” is strange. Can this be understood as meaning that a thread without a subtitle is fine, but a thread with a subtitle is also fine in order not to provoke >>8? “Either way is fine” is certainly a convenient thing to say. By the way, you can't explain rationally why a subtitle is absolutely necessary, can you? Why not simply have no subtitle? Those of you on the pro-subtitle side, go ahead and explain why it is absolutely necessary to add one.

As >>367 said, subtitles are really nothing more than simple self-satisfaction. Since they offer no benefit, they are just a matter of pride and a cause of trouble. If I had to say, I would like to ban them, but that would only attract troublemakers. ◆ If you want to create a thread with a subtitle, propose it first and discuss whether it is necessary. The content must be appropriate.

>>418 Just leave it alone, I guess. Honestly, I don't care; it's better than creating duplicate threads and causing trouble. Discussion is one thing, but creating the next thread before the discussion has reached a conclusion would be even worse. The discussion is pointless.

>>420 > Can this be understood as meaning that a thread without a subtitle is fine, but > a thread with a subtitle is also fine in order not to provoke >>8? Exactly. In other words, the pro-subtitle side isn't the only side causing trouble. If that's the case, there is no reason to insist on having no subtitle either.

>>422 So you're saying a thread like the one in >>376 can also be left alone without any problem. Got it, lol.

>>420 The idea that “if there is no absolute necessity for adding a subtitle, it must not be added” is fundamentally strange. At its root, you can glimpse the arrogant belief that “subtitles obviously should not exist.”

【July 7】RYTHEM / Rhythm 33【7th-anniversary live】 http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1276252177/ If you went to another thread and asked, “What is the absolute necessity for adding a subtitle?” they might call you an idiot.

>>423 Isn't this retaliation against the pro-subtitle camp because they arrogantly created a thread with a subtitle even though they couldn't explain why it was necessary? If you create a thread with a subtitle without permission, you should have no room for excuses. I wish people would understand what the “do not add subtitles” note in the template is actually for.

Please change the idea that “subtitles obviously should not exist in the first place.”

>>426 If someone adds a strange subtitle to another thread, it gets recreated immediately too, lol. The difference with this thread is that doing so would make someone come along and disrupt the recreated thread as well. That's why it became necessary to unify things or make a decision.

>>428 How about this? ・Subtitle fanatics cause trouble. ・A subtitle causes trouble. ・A subtitle has no meaning.

>>429 If it is a strange subtitle, yes. But the idiot in this thread creates duplicate threads even when the subtitle looks ordinary to everyone else.

I'm not saying the subtitle in this thread is a problem. I'm saying the question is what to do if a strange subtitle appears in the future.

>>425 For notes, announcements, and so on, the template in >>1 is sufficient. Some people get pleasure from subtitles (?), while others find them unpleasant. That's why I want to examine whether subtitles are necessary.

>>430 The correct way to put it is: trouble starts because there are idiots who create duplicate threads solely because a subtitle exists.

If >>950 is the troublemaker and adds a strange subtitle, just request deletion and leave it alone. But this thread should be used normally.

>>434 > Trouble starts because there are idiots who create duplicate threads solely because a subtitle exists. You understand it, then. Precisely because of that, having no subtitle is enough.

>>436 The problem is the idiot who creates duplicate threads, not the subtitle.

>>427 The moment you admit it is retaliation, you've already lost the argument. If possible, please write in slightly more coherent Japanese. >>432 There's no point ignoring what is happening right in front of us while talking about the future. >>436 Just get rid of the idiot.

>>435 When requesting deletion, where does it become unacceptable, and where is it acceptable? There is no way to decide that fairly. Then people who cannot accept the decision will cause trouble again. As long as people like that exist, standardizing on no subtitle is safer.

>>434 Newcomers should go back and read the previous discussion. The subtitle problem isn't limited to this incident. In short, subtitles tend to be disliked in GARNET CROW threads. Since there is no necessity, adding one is meaningless. In any case, this incident has made it clear that adding a subtitle leads to a negative cycle. ◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. Unless there is a special reason, such as an album release, do not add a subtitle. ◆ If you want to create a thread with a subtitle, propose it first and discuss whether it is necessary. The content must be appropriate. For now, I would like to proceed with this proposal.

Johnny's-related content, or “Yurippe is a virgin”—surely we can draw a boundary at that level. The old template had the phrase “GARNET CROW songs only”; we can just add it back. It disappeared without anyone noticing.

On the contrary, I want to know why you hate subtitles so much. Why can't you simply use the thread normally even if it has a subtitle, like other threads do? What exactly is the reason for this hatred??

>>438 > There's no point ignoring what is happening right in front of us while talking about the future. That's so abstract that it has no meaning at all, lololol. What exactly is “what is happening right in front of us”? lol >>441 I can accept that personally.

>>438 What do you mean by “admit”? I said, “Could this be retaliation?”—a possible explanation one might think of. So what do you think is the reason threads with subtitles cause trouble? It's hard to believe that trouble-loving people just happened to come and refuse to leave, isn't it?

>>440 That would give the anti-subtitle side far too much advantage. “Don't add a subtitle unless there is a special reason, such as an album release”—who do you think you are?

The assertion that “if there is no necessity, adding one is meaningless” is really arrogant.

>>443 The point is to correctly recognize why this thread—which has no problem with the subtitle itself—ended up becoming this chaotic. So is >>441 the compromise proposal? Personally, I think that would work.

>>440 → ◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. Unless there is a special reason, such as an album release, do not add a subtitle. >>442 >>445 How many times do I have to explain that adding a subtitle causes trouble?

In the end, as in this incident, there is no benefit at all to subtitles if they come at the cost of causing trouble.

◆ The person who reaches 950 creates the thread. If adding a subtitle, limit it to GARNET CROW song titles. ◆ Under 2ch's rules, creating duplicate threads is prohibited.

>>448 No. The trouble doesn't happen naturally. It is simply caused by someone who hates subtitles, and there is only one person doing it. If we decide “don't do it because it will cause trouble,” won't that be exactly what the troublemaker wants? lol

>>444 It was retaliation. But that was wrong. >>448 Wasn't it the recreated thread that caused the trouble?

There's no particular problem with >>450. Whether there is a subtitle or not, just use the thread that was created first. That's only natural.

>>452 Then the pro-subtitle camp should hurry up and explain why it is absolutely necessary to add one. If you can't explain it, even if someone creates a thread with a subtitle without permission, why not let it sink?

>>454 No, that's too extreme. Other threads don't add subtitles because they are necessary either; it's simply for fun, isn't it? I think subtitles are fine as long as we clearly establish where the line is drawn.

>>454 Since there is no absolute reason why it must be removed, it should be rejected on that basis.

◆ The person who reaches 950 creates the thread. If adding a subtitle, limit it to GARNET CROW song titles. ◆ Under 2ch's rules, creating duplicate threads is prohibited. What matters is that the pro-subtitle and anti-subtitle camps coexist. If >>950 creates a thread without a subtitle, use it normally; if >>950 creates a thread with a subtitle, use it normally too. Wouldn't that solve it?

>>452 Newcomer, stop snapping at people. That's why I keep saying the trouble was caused by adding a subtitle. >>450 It's obvious this will repeat exactly what happened this time.

>>458 What do you mean by “repeat what happened this time”? Even if an idiot creates a duplicate thread, as long as we calmly continue using the thread that was created first, it's fine.

>>457 Isn't it because that can't be done that we're having this fight now?

Even if another duplicate thread appears, we can just have the one that violates the template in >>457 deleted. Then history won't repeat itself.

>>460 It's not that it can't be done; you just don't intend to do it. In this case, request deletion of the duplicate thread, leave it alone, and use this thread. It's not difficult, is it?

>>458 Rather than saying trouble “happens,” there are idiots who cause trouble simply because a subtitle was added. Don't worry about people like that.

>>456 > Since there is no absolute reason why it must be removed, it should be rejected on that basis. It's nothing more than >>1's self-satisfaction, so it isn't necessary. I would like to know what the subtitle of this thread, “Unfinished Tone,” means. The necessary part is “GARNET CROW part.” Ultimately, the artist's name is all that is absolutely necessary. There is no need to add anything else. Just collect all the announcements in >>1 and the posts that follow. There is no opinion from the people insisting on adding subtitles. It seems that, after all, subtitles aren't necessary and there is no problem without them.

It's a waste to fill up the thread with subtitle proposals right when it is nearing its end. Which wording is good or bad depends on the person. The boundary is also vague, so it is obvious that this will cause trouble. If we decide in advance to have no subtitle, then even if someone creates a thread with one, we can simply request deletion without getting into an argument.

You people are too naive. If “just use the thread created by 950” were enough to settle things, this incident would not have become such a mess. The anti-subtitle camp has accumulated resentment toward the subtitle fanatics up to now, and I absolutely don't think they will suddenly accept it because of that. Look how chaotic this incident has become.

In my view, the anti-subtitle camp has no logic at all; they are simply opposing it emotionally because they personally dislike subtitles.

>>465 So why not define the boundary as “GARNET CROW song titles only”?

I remember the peaceful days when there were no subtitles.

Look at the reality of how intensely people are fighting now. Isn't it because there is a subtitle?

>>468 Isn't that exactly why things have become such a mess now?

>>467 In my view, the pro-subtitle camp has no logic at all; they are simply opposing it emotionally because they personally dislike having no subtitle. Are you planning to ignore the explanation of why adding a subtitle is absolutely necessary?

>>472 > They are simply opposing it emotionally because they personally dislike having no subtitle. Who is opposing anything? Can't you see >>457? The anti-subtitle camp is the one opposing it unconditionally, isn't it?

>>472 Haven't we been saying all along that there is “no absolute necessity”? lol We don't add them because they are necessary, lol. You're twisting the argument so much that discussion is impossible, lol.

>>464 I'll say it again: since there is no absolute reason why it must be removed, it should be rejected on that basis. >>465 Sorry, but talking about subtitle proposals puts me in a better mood than talking about perverts. >>466 > If “just use the thread created by 950” were enough to settle things, this incident would not have become such a mess. Isn't it because >>1 said something half-hearted like “it's safer not to add one if possible,” and then left it at that?

>>467 As for logic, the pro- and anti-subtitle camps are both just engaged in an emotional power struggle. The issue is how to skillfully bring the residents together. This incident has made it clear that once a subtitle is added, coexistence is impossible. If your idealistic theory could solve it, this discussion would never have existed in the first place.

>>475 Whether or not we discuss subtitle proposals, perverts and lunatics will show up anyway.

Pro-subtitle camp: Use the thread normally whether it has a subtitle or not. Anti-subtitle camp: What is the explanation for the absolute necessity of adding a subtitle?! ＞＜; I hate it! I hate subtitles!!

>>473 Sorry, I just copied and pasted it with a few changes and didn't notice.

>>476 ◆ The person who reaches 950 creates the thread. If adding a subtitle, limit it to GARNET CROW song titles. ◆ Under 2ch's rules, creating duplicate threads is prohibited. Posting this gives us a clear standard; threads that violate it can simply be reported for deletion. This isn't an idealistic theory. After all, things have been vague up to now.

I'm neutral, but looking at what happened before, it feels like the far-right people who absolutely hate subtitles came here and caused trouble themselves, then said, “See? It caused trouble, so subtitles are bad,” lolol. >>476 No, coexistence would be impossible even without a subtitle, wouldn't it? lol

>>480 That's what we've been saying all along. The residents of the thread, who have accumulated resentment toward the subtitle fanatics for causing trouble, will not accept that. Duplicate threads are still being created while everything remains vague, and you have completely failed to consider the need to discuss it in advance.

I'm neutral, but looking at what happened before, it feels like a subtitle-masturbation addict came here and caused trouble, then said, “See? It caused trouble, so don't get in the way of my masturbation,” lol.

>>475 Subtitles are meaningless. In my view, they are simply the act of posting unnecessary information. Other than >>1's self-satisfaction, is there any benefit to adding one? Is there?

So what exactly is the reason the pro-subtitle camp is so attached to subtitles? I don't see any particular necessity, and they cause trouble too. Isn't keeping things simple best?

>>482 Even if we discuss it in advance, can we really bring everyone together? I don't think we can. > Subtitle fanatics causing trouble I just think that is a mistaken understanding of the facts. >>484 Do you only discuss necessary information on 2ch? No, you don't. There is no reason to deliberately reject information that isn't necessary.

The root cause of the trouble is that the anti-subtitle camp refuses to accept diverse values and creates duplicate threads. Don't mistake the essence of the issue. Also, I'm not fixated on adding subtitles. I'm only saying they shouldn't be rejected.

>>486 Precisely because of that, the issue isn't whether everyone can be brought together. The question is whether discussing it in advance would calm down the anti-subtitle camp. This is a proposal I have made repeatedly. Please don't forget it.

>>488 If you move on to the next thread without reaching agreement, won't that leave more resentment behind? Perhaps we simply think differently about that.

>>486 Please answer the question: “Other than >>1's self-satisfaction, is there any benefit to adding one? Is there?” Is there, or isn't there?

I think we should try following >>480 starting with the next thread. Even if you say that so-and-so won't accept it, there are people who hate subtitles and people who want to add them. There is no way to create a path that everyone will accept. Even so, having rules is enough: delete posts that violate the rules, and it will be easier to reach a consensus. There is all kinds of staged conversation and other nonsense on 2ch, but I still think discussion is possible.

The pro-subtitle camp isn't insisting on adding a subtitle no matter what. We're only saying to use the thread that was created first. It's strange that people call that perfectly obvious point “self-satisfaction” and ask about “necessity.” The pro-subtitle camp can accept either option. The anti-subtitle camp should also stop being emotional and accept either option.

>>486 That's why, newcomer, you should look at the past. Remember that there have been incidents where a pervert added a perverted subtitle and caused trouble. I'll say it again: once a subtitle is added, trouble is guaranteed. Saying that this can be prevented is nothing more than idealistic theory. In that case, it is wiser to give up subtitles, which have little necessity.

◆ The person who reaches 950 creates the thread. If adding a subtitle, limit it to GARNET CROW song titles. As long as this sentence is there, even if a pervert adds a perverted subtitle, we can openly report it for deletion and leave it alone, so there is no problem.

>>490 The benefit of adding one and the benefit of not adding one are both just >>1's self-satisfaction. >>493 You want to use something from five years ago as evidence? Give me a break. It's already 2010.

>>489 That level is acceptable. Honestly, looking back at what has happened recently, the anti-subtitle camp is also a majority among the GARNET CROW thread residents. So what the anti-subtitle camp hates is less the subtitles themselves than the people who use them to cause trouble.

>>495 It has happened several times even this year.

>>494 I think we can just use this template. Continuing the discussion would only be speculation. Besides, there are people who are just throwing tantrums, lol. It's completely unconstructive.

That's true.

>>495 The benefit of having no subtitle is that there is almost no chance of trouble (see the past). With a subtitle, the probability of trouble is obvious from what you can see here. That alone is enough to count as a benefit.

Rather, there has never been a precedent of a thread with a subtitle not causing trouble, lol.

It's not that trouble happens because there is a subtitle; it happens because the anti-subtitle camp acts arbitrarily and creates duplicate threads. That's changing the subject. The cause of the trouble is that the anti-subtitle camp has no morals and breaks the rules.

>>497 >>410 listed several examples, but which subtitles were perverted? >>498 Agreed. >>500 > With a subtitle, the probability of trouble is obvious from what you can see here. That's because the anti-subtitle camp is causing trouble. Still, there is no need to worry about people like that.

For what it's worth, I'll mention what happened when I was here before. Someone put something like “I love Yurippe” in the subtitle. The residents thought it was disgusting, or disliked the fact that it only said “Yurippe,” so they created another thread and moved there, and then the subtitle fanatic came and caused trouble. So it is wrong to say that the anti-subtitle camp is at fault at the root.

That did happen. But if we limit subtitles to song titles, that situation won't arise.

We're starting from different premises in this discussion. Originally, all that needs to be carried over is the artist's name and the thread number. Subtitles are fine either way. I think the past history of being disrupted has had a major influence.

>>504 Understood. But we still need to clearly state what is allowed and what is not. Let's summarize it according to something like the proposal in >>480. I'm going to bed.

Reference material: GARNET CROW part.206 Yurippe is a virgin!! http://mimizun.com/log/2ch/musicjg/1238581060/ 【Yurippe】 GARNET CROW part.212 【I love her☆】 http://logsoku.com/thread/toki.2ch.net/musicjg/1248872690/ GARNET CROW part.215 Yurippe is a virgin!! http://mimizun.com/log/2ch/musicjg/1252491911/ GARNET CROW part.243 L'Arc-en-Ciel disbanding because they look Korean and ugly http://logsoku.com/thread/toki.2ch.net/musicjg/1282203061/

Ultimately, what enjoyable thing can come from simply adding a song title as a subtitle...? Probably the only point of >>507's proposal is that it can be used to rebut >>8. On the other hand, the people who made a list of vulgar subtitles like those in >>508 were probably delighted too.

>>505 You should understand by now. Regardless of the content, nine out of ten threads with subtitles have caused trouble up to now. Isn't it too one-sided to say, “The anti-subtitle camp is causing trouble, so everyone else has to put up with it”? In fact, it is strange that the troublemaker on the part.247 side wasn't punished at all. People will probably think I'm being overly persistent. But I'm convinced that adding a subtitle makes it impossible to break out of this cycle of trouble, which is why I say this. No matter how grandly you dress up your idealistic theory of suppressing other people, it won't reach anyone's heart.

What problem does having no subtitle cause?

Rather than stipulating “only GARNET CROW song titles may be used,” it would be better to stipulate “strings other than GARNET CROW song titles may not be used.” That would regulate unnecessary additions. However, if I were the troublemaker, I would deliberately create a thread using an incorrect song title, pretend to be an anti-subtitle troublemaker, spam ASCII art, and after making the thread situation chaotic, pretend to be a third party and start criticizing the GARNET CROW thread residents.

>>503 Recently, it was something like this: 【Now】 GARNET CROW part.231 【On tour】 http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1267935098/ 【Yurippe】 GARNET CROW part.231 【Nana Azuki】 http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1267892212/ 【Yurippe】 GARNET CROW part.230 【I love her☆】 http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1267347189/ GARNET CROW part.227 — Not afraid of the storm — http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1264683020/ GARNET CROW part.226 Yurippe is a virgin!! http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1263088594/ Art Music Production Group GARNET CROW part.220 http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1255524285/ GARNET CROW part.215 Yurippe is a virgin!! http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1252491911/ 【Yurippe】 GARNET CROW part.212 【I love her☆】 http://logsoku.com/thread/toki.2ch.net/musicjg/1248872690/ GARNET CROW part.209 Yurippe is God!! http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1243334321/ GARNET CROW part.207 Yurippe is a virgin!!! http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1240842657/ GARNET CROW part.206 Yurippe is a virgin!! http://mimizun.com/log/2ch/musicjg/1238581060/ GARNET CROW part.205 Yurippe is a virgin!! http://anchorage.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1234525228/

>>480 seems to be forcing the anti-subtitle camp to put up with it. Even though the conclusion is “subtitle = trouble, no subtitle = no trouble,” you still want to push things toward having one. I don't think that's right. Besides, even if you say to just delete it, the duplicate threads haven't been deleted to this day.

The person who created duplicate threads should die.

Wouldn't it be fine to have no subtitle?

Hmm... I'm not saying we should reject subtitles completely from the outset, but thinking about it carefully, isn't the permissive camp simply saying, “Just use the thread that was created first”? If so, it seems we could settle this by banning subtitles.

I heard that if ten threads in a row have no subtitles, Yurippe will give us a reward.

Interrupting the discussion for a moment: I heard that always wearing a ponytail can cause a condition called traction alopecia.

Subtitles themselves are really fine either way, but wouldn't it be better to have none? Making rules one by one, such as “only GARNET CROW song titles may be used,” is a hassle. It looks cleaner without one, and that's better.

Anti-subtitle: → By banning subtitles, it becomes easy to identify people using subtitles to cause trouble. Pro-subtitle: → Don't reject subtitles. The pro-subtitle argument isn't an argument at all. Demanding that others accept it without even giving a reason is rather arrogant.

Pro-subtitle camp: Calm. Anti-subtitle camp: Emotional and persistent.

You people!! How long are you going to keep arguinggggggggggggggggg—nnngh!!!!

As long as we can talk about GARNET CROW, the thread title doesn't matter at all.

Anything decided in this lousy thread has no binding force at all. Ultimately, it is just a staged conversation by the person whose ID ends in P. I will never forgive this troublemaker in particular.

So that's how you want to frame it. I understand.

>>480 has made absolutely no progress, so I never intended to adopt it from the beginning.

This is a thread where perverts pant and hyperventilate. Have serious discussions in the main thread. Lick, lick.

Yesterday I Yuriny'd (masturbated while thinking about Yurippe). I finished in 30 seconds. orz

>>525 [ASCII-art character with its penis hanging out.] (Caption: “My little penis is dangling out~”)

Does anyone have a picture of semen ejaculated onto Yurippe? Please send it to me.

>>531 http://img.gazo-ch.net/bbs/55/img/200803/25968.jpg

This thread is for GARNET CROW fans, and for Johnny's-related content such as Arashi, Hey! Say! JUMP, NYC, B.I. Shadow, and NEWS. Subtitles are absolutely necessary!

I really wish everyone would understand what the “please avoid adding subtitles” note in the template is actually for. (Repeated 46 times.)

There really are a lot of disgusting fans, aren't there?

【The Great Emperor film】 GARNET CROW part.247 【Thanks for the blockbuster】

If subtitles are limited to GARNET CROW song titles... 【Eternal】 GARNET CROW part.○○ 【Funeral】 Something like this would become possible too, lol. We should eliminate possibilities like this that would make antis happy. Subtitles aren't necessary.

【Soaring Around the World】 GARNET CROW part.247 【Arashi JET】

So many strange people have shown up. If we let the GARNET CROW thread continue like this, the end of GARNET CROW's activities is not far away.

【NEWS】GARNET CROW part.247【KAT-TUN】

【Have fun】GARNET CROW part.247【Study hard】

So subtitles are moving in the direction of being banned. If the reluctant pro-subtitle camp objects, speak up now. ・Benefits of subtitles ・A guarantee that they won't cause trouble ・Reasons for rejecting no-subtitle threads At the very least, state these constructively and clearly.

It seems there is about one person desperately clinging to this.

http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1287405332/ ID:DFkQTL7i0, ID:1wDvrEk+0, and ID:+FB9t+b80 changed IDs around post 20 and repeatedly caused trouble by spamming anti-subtitle copy-paste text and ASCII art. Isn't this the same person who created that vulgar thread last time? I remember that last time too, they mumbled to themselves while causing trouble. This person is definitely posting from a pro-subtitle position.

That's P. Actually, last time they were also desperately resisting the movement to ban subtitles. Yesterday P posted less, while the troublemaking became more active.

Are you calling me?

I'm on the “not necessary” side, but since someone will insist on adding a subtitle even if we make rules, I don't care either way. Using hundreds of posts on a discussion like this is incredibly stupid. All we need is the band name and number. Everything else should simply be ignored.

Does wanting to add a subtitle mean being someone who causes trouble with copy-paste?

>>546 Sorry—the whole thread is full of idiots.

The no-subtitle thread was disrupted because even the troublemaker recognized it as the real thread, lol. That one was created in the form of a subtitle ban, so let's settle on that from now on! Or rather, perhaps it was precisely because this trend had formed that someone came to cause trouble, lol. ID ending in P = pervert = Johnny's scum. What a pity, lol.

>>550 = duplicate-thread fanatic = >>8. Confirmed, right? lol

I don't understand why >>8 gets attacked while the habitual troublemaker is protected. Newcomer, lurk for six months.

>>552 Because in the previous thread, the person who reached 950 according to the rules created a legitimate thread, and >>8 disrupted it. I could understand it if the subtitle were 【Yurippe is】 【a virgin】, but if it is a subtitle like 【Unfinished】 【Tone】, can you explain why that would turn it into a thread that anyone is allowed to disrupt?

>>552 You, who don't understand the circumstances, are the one who should lurk for six months, lol.

>>8 is wrong, and of course the troublemaker is wrong too. That's all.

>>549 You're welcome. (￣ー￣)

Ahhh—

>>524 Completely agree.

I hope Yurippe and Nana can make up and get along again.

Impossible.

>>559 Don't arbitrarily portray them as being on bad terms, lol.

I'm a freak for loving “Cried a little” so much.

Why not simply split the subtitle and no-subtitle threads and let each exist independently?

There really have been rumors that they aren't getting along.

Even though they were close enough to hang out together privately.

Wasn't that quite a long time ago?

They didn't look at each other at all during the event. Between two women, once they fall out, it's hard to make up, isn't it?

But they were chatting and laughing normally.

After attending the event, I still thought the two women seemed to get along very well.

They were still close at least until that event. They even held hands when they appeared on Music Station.

They didn't speak at all in Tokyo. They didn't even make eye contact. That's the truth.

>>571 I went to both Tokyo and Osaka, and in Tokyo they also looked perfectly friendly and chatted normally.

◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. Unless there is a special reason, do not add a subtitle. ◆ If you want to create a thread with a subtitle, propose it first and discuss whether it is necessary. The content must be appropriate. Should we follow this direction next time?

◆ >>950 is responsible for creating the next thread. If adding a subtitle, limit it to GARNET CROW song titles. (If the subtitle is not an official GARNET CROW song title, it is invalid.) ◆ Under 2ch's rules, creating duplicate threads is prohibited. ◆ When creating a thread, do not arbitrarily rewrite or delete the notes template. > If the subtitle is not an official GARNET CROW song title, it is invalid. > Valid: 【Tears of】 GARNET CROW part. 【Yesterday】 > Invalid: 【Tears】 GARNET CROW part. 【Yesterday】 I think whether to add a subtitle should be left to the person creating the next thread. If it were me, I wouldn't add one, but subtitles intended to cause trouble should be left for everyone to judge. This should be a proposal both sides can accept. It's about time to put an end to this!

>>574 Agreed. If we use that template proposal, there shouldn't be any more disputes.

I think this will remain an endless stalemate, lolol.

>>574 >>575 Opposed. It will cause trouble in the end anyway. How could it possibly avoid disputes, idiots?

It seems there are still idiots who misunderstand “subtitle = trouble.” It isn't the subtitle thread that causes trouble; it is that repeatedly recreated no-subtitle thread that causes trouble, lol. Because it violates the rules. If you hate it that much, why don't you race to >>950 yourself and create a no-subtitle thread? Your personal whim can't carry the day, scum.

【Eternal】GARNET CROW【Funeral】 What if it turns into this? It will definitely cause trouble. Subtitles aren't necessary.

>>579 Can you explain specifically what problem that would cause?

>>580 Wouldn't that make it just like an anti thread? Something like “Eternal Funeral.” If you don't see it that way, then our values are different.

If you think that way, just ban the especially exceptional title “Eternal Funeral.” There probably aren't any other song titles that would be a problem. Though something like “Timeless Sleep” is a little borderline, lol.

Violates the rules, so trouble starts → Doesn't get adopted, feels resentful, so they cause trouble. The explanation changes along with the position, doesn't it? lol

>>583 I don't really like the current thread title; it feels like “Unfinished GARNET CROW.” But that's just my personal preference, and I don't intend to impose it on anyone else.

>>585 Sorry.

>>585 No, I'm the one who should apologize, lol. Sorry, I'll disappear now.

This is just one of many proposals; I'm sorry if it made anyone uncomfortable.

The person who violated the rules is the one who created the duplicate thread. At the time of the previous thread, subtitles had not clearly been designated as prohibited. Even if there really was a local rule banning subtitles, the same applies. It is wrong to unilaterally exclude them with the claim “subtitles cause trouble, so don't use them” without first having a constructive discussion of whether subtitles are preferable to no subtitles. However, I do think it would have been good to discuss subtitles before creating this thread. Because the other side acted unilaterally, it is also undeniable that subtitles were rejected as bad by knee-jerk reaction. Objectively speaking, if we ask which side is wrong, it is clearly the duplicate-thread side. Personally, I oppose subtitles. As I wrote above, even a simple GARNET CROW title has the potential to cause trouble. And there are clearly people who intensely hate subtitles. So I can't see any benefit to adding one deliberately. Since there are people who hate them, I would like them to explain properly what the benefits of adding a subtitle are. Because this causes trouble for other fans, I want the creation of duplicate threads to stop, and I want us to reach a conclusion soon. With troublemakers still here, the discussion has become nothing but people talking past one another.

The person who violated the rules is the one who created the duplicate thread. At the time of the previous thread, subtitles had not clearly been designated as prohibited. Even if there really was a local rule banning subtitles, the same applies. It is wrong to unilaterally exclude them with the claim “subtitles cause trouble, so don't use them” without first having a constructive discussion of whether subtitles are preferable to no subtitles. However, I do think it would have been good to discuss subtitles before creating this thread. Because the other side acted unilaterally, it is also undeniable that subtitles were rejected as bad by knee-jerk reaction. Objectively speaking, if we ask which side is wrong, it is clearly the duplicate-thread side. Personally, I oppose subtitles. As I wrote above, even a simple GARNET CROW title has the potential to cause trouble. And there are clearly people who intensely hate subtitles. So I can't see any benefit to adding one deliberately. Since there are people who hate them, I would like them to explain properly what the benefits of adding a subtitle are. Because this causes trouble for other fans, I want the creation of duplicate threads to stop, and I want us to reach a conclusion soon. With troublemakers still here, the discussion has become nothing but people talking past one another.

I haven't been here in a long time. Which one is the real thread?

>>589 I think it's exactly as you said.

I came to look after a year away. I wondered whether there would be a live show in Sapporo. And then the album came out—aaaaaaahhhhh lolololol. The cycle is so fast, lol. It's only been a year, lol. When did this happen? lolol But... why isn't there a live show in Sapporo?! Aaaahhh, I've been betrayed...

Honestly, it doesn't seem like there are many people who actually want to add subtitles. It seems there are simply people who think they can be allowed.

>>589 The later-created threads in the list at >>513 survived in quite a few cases. The deletion guidelines also say: > A comprehensive judgment is made based on the priority of when the thread was created, the time, what was written in the first post, and how many replies it has. So perhaps we can't categorically say that the duplicate-thread side is wrong.

>>593 Exactly. It's not that we want to add a subtitle no matter what. It's that even though a thread with a subtitle was legitimately created, people are collectively condemning a subtitle that was never explicitly prohibited as if it were absolutely forbidden, and I don't think that's right. Think about how >>1 feels: they reached >>950 and created a new thread, only to receive a pile of criticism. That can't feel good. Looking at it now, even if you dislike subtitles, we should have used this thread up first and then created a no-subtitle thread. The only people inconvenienced when a subtitle causes trouble are GARNET CROW fans, but creating duplicate threads inconveniences other fans too and damages the impression of GARNET CROW fans. In short, this is probably the worst possible state. No one can tell which thread is the real one, and the argument about subtitles has drowned out the GARNET CROW discussion that should have become lively with the album and live shows. There are also troublemakers who remain here. I just hope this gets settled soon.

Honestly, it has naturally become established that adding a subtitle causes a dispute. So if everyone's attitude toward subtitles is not to promote them but merely to tolerate them, it might be better to ban them outright.

>>594 Sorry to interrupt, but a deletion moderator can't grasp the details and full context inside every thread. So a standard is needed for deletion, and that is the deletion guide. The moderator simply follows it mechanically; the thread residents should decide which side is legitimate. So the claims “deleted by the moderator = bad thread” and “left up = correct thread” should not hold, right?

>>593 I didn't know there was such a rule. Sorry. But when this thread was created, subtitles were not explicitly prohibited. The template was written properly, and it was created by >>950 according to the rules. I think we should use this thread up first and discuss it inside here afterward. Since there seem to be people who intensely hate subtitles, I think it would be better not to add them from next time onward. But this subtitle doesn't look intended to cause trouble, so looking at it now, there was no need to create a new thread specifically.

Unless >>1 comes out and says something, I can't deny that it feels like the person involved is absent.

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>>597 Yes. Up to now, rather than posting or spamming to bury posts like >>8, people have calmly continued using the no-subtitle side, so even when the subtitle thread was created first, it was always that one that got deleted.

Even if >>1 were present, they wouldn't deliberately identify themselves. Setting the subtitle issue aside, >>1 at least didn't violate the rules written in the template. Although I do think that as a local rule, subtitles are basically prohibited. There is no way to know whether the subtitle was added maliciously. Anyway, I just want to break the current deadlock. I oppose subtitles. Because I dislike them, I reflexively kept using that thread. I'm the same kind of person, so the person who created the duplicate thread isn't the only one at fault. Although I also wrote some self-righteous things, the fact is that I have some responsibility too. Rather than arguing about whether >>1 or the duplicate-thread creator is wrong, what I really want now is for us to decide what happens next and settle this quickly. I don't want to see the thread consumed by arguments about subtitles, or duplicate threads making it impossible to tell which one is the real thread.

If >>1 says nothing, it feels like we're almost reaching unanimous approval of “banning subtitles is fine,” lol. I also think they aren't necessary anyway.

Even if >>1 showed up at this point, there would be no way to verify that it was really them. If there is no opinion insisting on a subtitle at all costs, then the principle should be no subtitle. If someone creates a thread with a subtitle, request deletion if the content is vulgar or strongly intended to cause trouble; otherwise, calmly use it. That is probably the compromise. Though disputes will probably still arise when judging it.

Whether you support or oppose subtitles is irrelevant; the person who created a duplicate thread simply because they disliked it is the most at fault.

It's ridiculous that people have made such a fuss over subtitles, while disgusting posts and posts unrelated to GARNET CROW have mostly been ignored. Compared with the former, I think the latter is far more important.

>>606 Perverts and Johnny's obsessives aren't even worth discussing. No matter how many times you write it, it's a waste of time, so shouldn't we simply ignore them completely? Someone seems to have reported them too, but nobody appears to have dealt with it.

It looks like part.248 has already been created under the name of a subtitle ban... Surely it's just a troublemaker pretending to be pro-subtitle. This is really depressing.

They really seem to hate it, lol.

Pro-subtitle → anti-subtitle.

Even if the argument that “no subtitle causes confusion” is correct, creating threads indiscriminately is no different from causing trouble.

That thread is invalid. >>950

Here comes the report!!!!!

“Hatenai Sora” is really a great song, lolol. I've been listening to it every day. It's amazing!!!!!

I want to hear “Hatenai Sora” on CD soon, lolol. It really suits that drama.

What song is that?

>>616 It's the usual person. Just ignore them, lol.

This thread is for GARNET CROW fans, and for Johnny's-related content such as Arashi, Hey! Say! JUMP, NYC, B.I. Shadow, and NEWS. Subtitles are absolutely necessary!

>>615 “Hatenai Sora” is great, right? lol It really hits you in the heart. I'm going to make the trip to Takoyaki on Friday to buy merchandise.

>>619 What a coincidence. I'm going on Friday too. Hateshinai Sora is the best!

Exclusive streaming on Dwango!! “Hatenai Sora” and “Ano Hi no Merry Christmas.”

Yurippe.

Takoyaki is going to be hit directly by a typhoon this weekend, lol.

It's extremely cold around Takoyaki. I need to prepare proper rain gear. Will Arashi be able to get back to Tokyo?

I want to drink Yurippe's urine.

The GANE thread is increasingly turning into a lawless zone... ('A)

GARNET CROW There are so many idiots.

As long as Nana is here, that's enough.

If the weather is clear in Takoyaki tomorrow, it will be perfect for lining up to buy merchandise. But to the women attending this weekend: will transportation be okay?

Bury the thread.

VS Arashi is about to start—

22:00 — Himitsu no Arashi-chan: fashion showdown with Kanjani∞.

KFC Japan's “Atsu-pa” commercial will star Matsumoto Jun!!

They're doing Dominica!!

The concerts start tomorrow! Everyone who's going, have fun. I need to go buy Atsu-pa tomorrow. (｀・ω・´)

Use Jun for tissues. Drink Green Label beer. Eat Vermont curry. I can't get into the venue tomorrow, but thinking about Arashi inside the Dome is enough to make my nose bleed, lol. I'll leave after hearing the opening cheers. Has the Teito ticket still not been shipped?!

Takoyaki — schedule — Kyocera Dome Friday, October 29, 18:00 Saturday, October 30, 18:00 Sunday, October 31, 16:00

It's almost time for Himitsu no Arashi-chan.

Kanjani∞ is fun.

Now, here's the upcoming concert schedule: 10/24 (Sun) Free school-festival concert @ Soai University (Osaka Nanko) — 13:30~ 11/22 (Mon) Concert @ Yoyogi Bogaloo — 18:00/18:30 11/23 (Tue, holiday) Concert @ Roppongi STROBE CAFE — 19:00/19:30 (SOLD OUT) 12/3 (Fri) One-man concert eve event 【Laid-back, cozy acoustic concert】 — 19:00/19:30 12/4 (Sat) “Saite Hiraite” release commemorative one-man concert 【Come on, everyone—sing together! Laugh together!】 — 18:30/19:00

>>639 Kanjani is fun, lol. I hope KAT-TUN comes next too.

At the December Osaka concert, the album will have only recently been released, so if you haven't listened to it enough, the songs may feel like a series of “???,” and it seems the fun will be cut in half. Also, with so many concerts scheduled like this, it looks like a DVD of STAY won't be released either. They already released a DVD of the BEST tour, so I wonder if they'll alternate releases. There are also Countdown, the orchestra show, and this year's 2010+ that haven't been released yet.

That's exactly how it was at last year's Nagoya STAY concert. I enjoyed it anyway, but I still wish I could have listened to the album for at least a week beforehand.

I'm going to the Tokyo show, so I should be able to enjoy it properly. (^_^)v

The regular-edition cover of Parallel Universe is cuter. I can't afford to buy both... Maybe I should split the purchase with my mother.

>>645 You're buying it because of the cover? lol Which interests you more—the bonus DVD or the bonus tracks—is a personal matter, of course. If your mother is also a GANE fan, I'm incredibly jealous, but don't force her to buy it, lol.

During the STAY tour... I caught swine flu, and because it was a standing show, I stayed home out of self-restraint and missed it. I hope nothing strange becomes widespread this year...

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>>646 I usually buy the first-press limited edition, but I hesitated this time, lol. My mother joined the fan club, so it's fine, lol. She even cleverly won something like a signed electronic watch in a lottery, lol.

>>647 You caught swine flu last year... What a shame! This year you need to get through the tour in perfect health—no, attend the tour—no, no, go to the shows! >>653 > My mother joined the fan club, so it's fine. She even won something like a signed electronic watch in a lottery. What kind of privileged environment is that...? I'm so jealous, lolol. My mother only listens to enka. In the end, I bought both the first-press limited and regular editions, lol. Anyway, I have class tomorrow morning too, so I'm going to bed.

>>654 I noticed a typo just as I was about to go to sleep! × “I caught swine flu last yearrr” ○ “I caught swine flu last year” I sincerely hope the GANE thread returns to normal! I really need to go to sleep.

Why has it already reached part.248? lol Enough already, scum.

I know Yurippe has small breasts, but what about her butt? I think she is the type who gains weight easily in her lower body.

It's about time they stopped using member photos for cover art.

By the way, this GANE thread is really awful. I haven't been here in a long time. Does everyone actually want a thread like this? Is this the only place in such a terrible state? What is going on? Endless ASCII-art posts, endless Johnny's topics, GANE vulgar jokes, and, most importantly, no GANE topics.

There are GANE topics here, properly. Just read that part.

Yurippe...

Yurippe's vagina feels endlessly good. The folds of flesh wrap around my penis as if they were melting it.

No, it's my penis.

>>659 This is on the Japanese music board, so it would be better over there. It wasn't originally meant to be here anyway.

Regular edition http://www.amazon.co.jp/parallel-universe-GARNET-CROW/dp/B00450XP44/ref=pd_sim_m_2 First-press limited edition http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B00450XP3K/ref=s9_newr_gw_ir03?pf_rd_m=AN1VRQENFRJN5&pf_rd_s=center-6&pf_rd_r=166RHGERTC4H2KZ1HVQ2&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=463376816&pf_rd_i=489986 The first-press limited edition is actually cheaper. http://www.amazon.co.jp/Now-Printing%E3%83%BB%E3%83%BB%E3%83%BB-SUPER-LIGHT/dp/B00450XP4E/ref=pd_sim_m_1 What is this other one?

Redirect. ^^ http://toki.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicj/1275494026/

>>665 Because the first-press limited edition includes a DVD, it can be sold at a discount from the release date.

>>657 Yes. Rather than the lower body in general, her butt and thighs are especially fleshy. She has a very sexy figure.

Back from my trip to Takoyaki to buy merchandise, lol. I arrived at Takoyaki Dome at 10:30. I was directed to the merchandise line: go this way, around the gas canisters toward the river, and behind the Dome. From there, follow the road and sidewalk underneath the Dome until you reach the front steps, lol. It was a huge detour and took 15 minutes. Then I started queuing. The line zigzagged around the outside of the Dome, and I finished buying merchandise at 13:30. I waited three hours. It wasn't hot or cold. If I had queued at the National Stadium in midsummer, I probably would have died, lol. Johnny's merchandise is amazing! Normally, even when I go to concerts, I never buy merchandise, but with Arashi, I have a separate stomach, lol. I could hear sounds leaking from the Dome rehearsal!! November 19, the Big Egg is waiting for me!!

>>665 It feels like a cheap clearance sale. I hate it, lol.

Yurippe's cover photos are starting to look a little strained lately too.

Because she's an old lady now.

I think Yurippe is an angel who descended to Earth.

Nana in the regular-edition cover and the mysterious man shown from behind in the limited edition are way too handsome, lolol. Yurippe's makeup is a little heavy, but I still think she looks beautiful.

Is Yurippe in “As the Dew” wearing a wig, or is it her real hair? Even though she always wears a ponytail, it feels too long to be real hair.

>>675 It has to be a wig. If real hair were that long and straight, she couldn't make her usual ponytail. It would look like a samurai. Yurippe's actual hair isn't that long, and it isn't layered at all. It feels like it is cut in a clean, even line; by around 2008 she had already perfected the Yurippe-style ponytail.

>>675 It really is long, lol—almost down to her waist. I watched the PV for the first time in ages and it reminded me of the BEST tour, lol.

(((・・;)

After the 10th Anniversary Year ends, do you think they'll take a break for about six months? This year's activity feels like the most active year of the past ten.

They'll disband.

The Detective Conan movie The Lost Ship in the Sky comes out on DVD on November 17!! I have to buy it! Of course, I'm buying it for GARNET CROW!

On a late-night program I watched before, there was a craftsman who made inflatable dolls—life-size, highly detailed dolls used for sexual release—for a living. He said: “This really isn't a job you can talk about loudly. Some people I know in the industry stopped speaking to their daughters for years after their daughters found out. When people hear ‘inflatable doll,’ they say it's disgusting or perverted. A group even came to protest that it discriminates against women. But soaplands are the same. No man genuinely wants to sleep with a soapland worker or an inflatable doll. Everyone wants to find a good woman, date her properly, be loved, and then have sex. But not everyone can do that. People with disabilities especially may not have enough money to visit soaplands regularly. Once, we donated something to a welfare facility, and a disabled person said, ‘Even when I go to places like soaplands, I can feel that the other person's face says they don't want to be there.’ He then carefully accepted one of the inflatable dolls we donated. Since then, I've thought that even if people call me a filthy doll maker, I want to keep researching dolls that can make people like that just a little happier.”

One day during a visit by the Pope to the United States, he was riding on a highway and said to the driver from the back seat: Pope: “I really love driving. Could you let me drive for a little while?” The driver let the Pope take the wheel, which seemed fine, but the Pope was actually a serious speed demon. In less than ten minutes, a white-motorcycle police officer pulled him over. The officer got off the motorcycle, saw that the driver was the Pope, and was shocked. He hurriedly radioed his superior. Officer: “Chief, this is bad! I pulled over a car carrying an incredibly important person!” Chief: “An important person!? How important?” Officer: “It's God!! What should I do?” Chief: “Calm down. What exactly is going on?” Officer: “Anyway, it's God! The Pope is driving for him!”

One day, Dad hurried home and locked himself in his room. Normally he would go straight to the living room, so I thought it was strange and went to look at the door. There was a note saying “Do not enter!!” He didn't answer when I knocked. Then I heard a little dog whimpering. Dad: “Shh!! Mom will yell at me if she finds out!!” Me: “Mom—!! Dad brought home a dog—!!” Dad: “W-wait!! That's not it!! That was just me making the sound!!” Mom came rushing up the stairs. Mom: “Dad, I won't be angry. Open the door.” The door slowly opened with a creak, and Dad was holding a Chihuahua. Dad: “I found it... It's pitiful, isn't it...” Mom: “How could a dog you found be inside a pet-store box? (laughs)” Dad: “(´Д;) Ahh!!” He thought saying he had found it would keep him from getting scolded, but behind him were the box for the Chihuahua, a complete set of pet supplies, and a book of names (for people). Thinking about how he had stopped spending his allowance and had been saving money, I realized he had wanted a Chihuahua. Today he was happily playing with the Chihuahua and a duck toy.

The same Chihuahua prank story as post 684, repeated verbatim.

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The same Chihuahua prank story as post 684, repeated twice.

The same Chihuahua prank story as post 684, repeated twice.

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The same Chihuahua prank story as post 684, repeated twice.

Even a disturbance this severe isn't being regulated. The moderators are really terrible.

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ID:wBIyZqeA0 ID:yyEI6RXX0 They keep posting ASCII art continuously in the same time period without changing IDs.

Rather than arguing over how to set the subtitle, the next thread itself is no longer needed. Even if there is one, it will just be full of troublemakers, Johnny's fans, and perverts...

Is that so? Then goodbye.

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If Mochi (Hitoshi Okamoto) sang Remioromen's “March 9,” I think it would suit his voice and the feel of the song perfectly. But honestly, Mochi doesn't have any talent for composing, lol.

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