GARNET CROW part.156

# GARNET CROW part.156 # https://mimizun.com/log/2ch/musicjg/1158231214/ # Posts: 1001 Official site: http://www.garnetcrow.com ★ 23rd single “Maboroshi” (Theme song for TV Asahi’s Thursday mystery drama *Shin Kasōken no Onna*) on sale now! ★ 24th single “Kaze to RAINBOW” (Opening theme for TV Tokyo’s anime *MÄR Heaven*) begins airing October 1! ☆ 5th album *THE TWILIGHT VALLEY*, first-press and regular editions confirmed for October 4! 01 Anywhere 02 Maboroshi — Album arr. 03 Koyoi Eden no Katasumi de 04 Rusty Rail 05 Yume・Hanabi 06 Kakurenbo 07 Himawari no Iro 08 Hare-dokei 09 Marginal Man 10 Rai Rai Ya 11 Yellow Moon 12 Mō Chotto Sagashite Mimashō 13 Haru Matsu Hana no Yō ni 14 WEEKEND ・First-press edition (CD + DVD) GZCA-5091, 3,500 yen tax included 　Includes highlights from the Premium Live only on the first-press edition. ・Regular edition (CD) GZACA-5092, 3,059 yen tax included ▲ Regular program ▲ Every Sunday: α-station 89.4 MHz, “PASTIME PARADISE” (Hitoshi Okamoto) ◆ Please use sage and enjoy relaxed discussion. ◆ Do not cause trouble for others. ◆ False information is unpleasant, so do not post it. ◆ Trolls, bumpers, delusional posters (especially negative ones), people exposing other artists, perverts, and people demanding information are usually bait or provocation. Ignore them completely. ◆ Remember that this is an anonymous forum. Fixed handles annoy people. ◆ If a post is unbearable, use a dedicated browser to filter its ID, fixed handle, phrases, and so on. ◆ Many people use phones and cannot block bad fixed IDs or trolls, which may make it look as though they are not being ignored. Ignore them thoroughly. Replying makes you just like the troll. ◆ Avoid wording and posts that make people think, “What a painful human being.” ◆ Hardcore Yurippe devotees are not allowed to use this thread. Go to the dedicated thread. ◆ The person at >>950 opens the next thread. No subtitles. Use common sense when modifying the template. ◆ If the thread becomes too outrageous, someone may request its deletion. ◆ Do not post virus code or old posts. ◆ Strongly reject self-conversation trolls. If you see posts like that, treat the person as pitiable and ignore them elegantly. ◆ Absolutely ignore bad fixed IDs. If you reply, you are just as painful. Previous thread: GARNET CROW part.155 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1157600533/

>>1 Thanks for your work. Yurippe and the others are the best, right! 【5th scripture】 Yurippe is so lovable. 5th worship 【Releases 10/4】 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/mjsaloon/1158230377/

>>1 Thanks for your work.

>>1 Thanks~

>>1 Thanks!

Contamination cleared.

I heard “Kakurenbo” has a feel like “Marionette”...

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>>7 What is your source?

>>1 Thanks for your work. “Maboroshi” is playing at Book Off.

Thanks for opening the thread.

>>1 Thanks for your work.

>>1 Thanks!!

I bought “Maboroshi.” Of course it was not the limited edition. But “hi-speed special oneday” is excellent, so I am satisfied.

>>1 Thanks for your work.

>>1 Thanks!

Here I am, still not having bought “Maboroshi” because I am afraid of getting a dud.

I bought everything, “Maboroshi” and all. I have never seen a scene at a record shop so painful to the stomach. Many people prepared themselves for one winner in 500. Even when I bought mine, I was prepared to at least get a mini gut guitar. But with numbers that small... — From the memories of a GARNET CROW thread resident.

>>17 Gather your courage!! You can do it!!

Someone is selling a CD on Yahoo Auctions with only the “Maboroshi” postcard removed. The desperation is hilarious.

Come to think of it, what was that tie-in bonus again?

According to footage shown on *Mugen* recently, the album DVD may include these four songs: “Mysterious Eyes,” “Natsu no Maboroshi,” “Yume Mita Ato de,” and “Spiral.”

>>14 You mean that other “Maboroshi,” right?

>>22 Really!?!? I love “Natsu no Maboroshi.” I am moved to tears!!!

>>22 Do not tell me that means there will be nothing else...?

>>25 If there are only four... ah. I thought there would probably be twice that, around eight. But this is GIZA... yes, this is GIZA... Should we give up hope now? lol

Give me your “Maboroshi”! If you refuse, I will troll this thread!! I said give it to me.

I saw something called mixi mentioned in the news (and on the 7 p.m. NHK news too). What is it? Is it different from 2ch? The site says things like “You cannot enter without an invitation!”

I think even those four will only be highlights.

Is four songs on a bonus DVD not already pretty good? I do not think they will include all four in full either.

>>22 If that is all, I could die... It is over.

>>29 Saegusa’s bonus DVD looks quite lavish too, so I hope this reaches that level. Kuraki’s was just an extremely perfunctory collection of PVs and making-of footage... (1) The popular promotional videos “Fall in Love” and “Everybody Jump” are included in full with behind-the-scenes footage. “Everybody Jump” especially includes an extended promotional video with previously unreleased scenes. (2) *U-ka saegusa IN db LIVE EVENT COLLECTOR’S EDITION*: footage from live events held around Japan for the releases of “Kimi no Ai ni Tsutsumaretai,” “Ai no Wana,” “Fall in Love,” and “Everybody Jump,” edited together from the performances, backstage footage, and backstage commentary.

Rather than a bonus, I would prefer them to release a proper Premium Live DVD...

>>33 Rather than an album with live highlights attached, a normal album with a DVD would help much more. It would be fine if they simply included a full DVD without separating first-press and regular editions.

If the DVD is a bonus, does that mean the first-press and regular editions cost the same?

>>35 First press: ¥3,500. Regular: ¥3,059. Four songs for 441 yen...

>>35 It is 500 yen more expensive.

The booklet is different between the limited and regular editions too.

Four songs in full, or more songs with only a little of each. Which do you choose?

>>39 Obviously four songs in full. If all four were only snippets, that would be a rip-off, lol.

If they were only snippets, would that not just be unfinished? It would be pointless, lol.

>>6 Go die, you NEET.

I laughed at how the bad fixed ID was ignored perfectly.

>>33 Exactly. I will buy it, so give us all the songs in full.

It has not been definitively decided that there are only four songs, right?

Details on the tracks on *THE TWILIGHT VALLEY* (skipping the singles). The main source is magazine articles. If anyone knows anything else, please add it. ◆ “Anywhere” — A grand song with a strong GARNET CROW feel. ◆ “Rusty Rail” — A warm, delicate song. ◆ “Kakurenbo” — Latin-flavored. Like “Marionette,” it has a strong contrast between music and lyrics. I hear the lyrics are especially frightening. ◆ “Himawari no Iro” — A minor-key song of the sort GARNET CROW does well. ◆ “Marginal Man” — A song that gives a feeling of drifting. ◆ “Yellow Moon” — The lyrics are so passionate that even Yurippe supposedly cannot sing them. I hear Nana wrote the lyrics twice. ◆ “Mō Chotto Sagashite Mimashō” — The last song to be completed. Bright and powerful. ◆ “Haru Matsu Hana no Yō ni” — A song with a dramatic development like “Kyō Kimi Ashita Kimi.” ◆ “WEEKEND” — A jazz-flavored song.

> “Himawari no Iro” — A minor-key song GARNET CROW does well. > “WEEKEND” — A jazz-flavored song. Apart from those two, I am suddenly extremely excited about everything! “So passionate that she cannot sing it”—what does that mean? Is it too erotic?

I have received many questions about the differences between the first-press and regular editions of the new album *THE TWILIGHT VALLEY*, released October 4, so I will answer on everyone’s behalf! 1) First, the cover photo is different. 2) The back cover is different too. 3) All photos and design used in the booklet are different. 4) The interior packaging design is different. 5) The label design (disc surface) is different. 6) Only the first-press edition has a bonus: a highlights DVD from last year’s Premium Live. In other words, the first-press and regular editions have no photos or designs in common at all! Perfect... lol

>>48 What? Not only the cover, but the booklet and packaging are different too...? Has GIZA really sunk to the point of doing something this blatant?

Give it to me, or I will troll this thread.

>>49 It is even more lavish than Kuraki’s, lol. Kuraki had three versions, with different cover photos and disc surfaces, lol. More precisely, the packaging design was the same even though the photos differed; the booklet and back cover used the same photo session. We will have to see whether that is also true for GARNET’s.

I heard “Kakurenbo” is about an oni child abandoning the child who was hiding and going home alone, lol. Now that I know this, I am looking forward to “Kakurenbo” the most, lol.

So the CD content is still the same in the end, right? I hope it is not like “Yume・Hanabi.”

>>48 It really is perfect... I am personally happy that BE-GIZA has finally adopted this approach. I am looking forward to “Himawari” and “Marginal Man.”

The audio is the same.

I am really looking forward to “Marginal Man” too.

“Yume・Hanabi” had slightly different contents between the regular and first-press editions. I panicked and bought both, but later regretted it a little because they were not worth buying two copies for. Things like a silent version and an a cappella version.

As far as I am concerned, if the catalog numbers are different, I buy both whenever possible. So I bought both regardless of whether it was worth it, but honestly I may have lost out, lol.

Director Nakamura, is the DVD four live-song highlights?

“Rai Rai Ya” is a painful single for fans.

>>57 That is a little... There was enough room to fit it all on the CD, yet they deliberately did that...

I am short on money, so honestly I am in the “as long as I can listen to it” camp. But if you truly love GARNET, you should probably buy both. I bought only the first press of “Atsumeru MÄR Heaven,” and this time I will probably buy only the first press too.

>>60 I like “Rai Rai Ya,” so I do not regret it that much. >>61 If it were only the exterior, fine, but changing the contents too does feel a little dirty.

Were “Yume・Hanabi” and “Atsumeru MÄR Heaven” the only releases with first-press editions?

>>46 Which magazine?

Come to think of it, Saegusa’s CD also had a PV included only with the first press, so this is not something they just started doing now.

>>64 “Wasurezak i” also had a first press, but it only came with a booklet. The case was slightly different too.

I work part-time at a rental shop. Apparently one copy of “Maboroshi” was stolen today... I was not handling the merchandise, so I did not see the disc inside. I do not know whether it was the phantom edition.

Was it taken from the store?

>>67 “Wasurezak i” had one too? I did not know. At this point, there cannot be any new first-press copies left, right?

If they keep failing to sell like this, the album tour may be sent off to a bakery factory. Though it is not really a tour, lol.

>>65 *WHAT’S IN*.

>>65 Correction: not *WHAT’S IN*; *CD Data*.

List of bad fixed IDs in the GARNET CROW thread — true revised edition. The post profiles several recurring handles: edz@g, a self-styled anime fan who has become less and less popular; Hotaruika, who treats 2ch like a doodle pad and mostly discusses other artists; an edz@g impersonator who provokes people; Manmosu, an obnoxious person who thinks he has excellent Western-music taste; Ahh-Namikoshi, who occasionally posts about Yuri Nakamura’s body; Shiori Takei, a weekend troll who alternates between a fixed handle and anonymous posts; and “Minna Shinebaiinoni,” a frequent troll who uses the same trip as Takei, contradicts himself about retiring the handle, and keeps posting despite being ignored. The post concludes that these people do not understand ordinary language and should not be engaged.

ASCII art followed by a long, abusive profile of “Yukio,” alleging that he is an unemployed, socially isolated NEET with poor hygiene, no friends, unhealthy obsessions, and a history of serious crimes. The post is hostile copypasta rather than substantive discussion.

How about stretching a little? http://web2.megaview.jp/imageout.php?m=org&ty=601&pt=v%2F20060324%2Fimg%2Fnnswhvbj9856510.jpeg&ctv=117 Yuri kicking: http://web2.megaview.jp/imageout.php?m=org&ty=701&pt=a4%2F20060323%2Fimg%2Fmedyeue9847110.jpeg&ctv=117 Yuri’s eyes: http://web2.megaview.jp/imageout.php?m=org&ty=501&pt=p%2F20060321%2Fimg%2Fhfnatkmm9827710.jpeg&ctv=117 Nana looks good here: http://web2.megaview.jp/imageout.php?m=org&ty=201&pt=e%2F20060321%2Fimg%2Fjdvlaei9827610.jpeg&ctv=117 Yuri glaring: http://web2.megaview.jp/imageout.php?m=org&ty=501&pt=s%2F20060311%2Fimg%2Firgtemnd9715610.jpeg&ctv=117 Nana is here~ http://web2.megaview.jp/imageout.php?m=org&ty=301&pt=h%2F20060409%2Fimg%2Flelchrot9983410.jpeg&ctv=117 Which of the three Yuris is real? http://web2.megaview.jp/imageout.php?m=org&ty=701&pt=a4%2F20060411%2Fimg%2Fmtljxkey9991910.jpeg&ctv=117 They are all real, of course.

Quoted older posts alleging that Premium Live seating was assigned not purely by number: conspicuous or unpleasant-looking men were moved toward the back, while women and attractive people were favored for front-row tickets. One post summarizes the supposed strategy as “GARNET fans: anime otaku and creepy men” becoming “GARNET fans: couples, handsome men, and young women.”

More old posts claim that the first women shown on the screen were probably staff or arranged participants, and that attendees were treated differently based on sex and appearance. They allege that creepy otaku were pushed to the sides and rear, while women were overrepresented in the low-numbered seats.

List of villains at the “Bakery Factory” live: Mazin — cuts from the very back to the front. Beckham — secretly photographs, cuts in line, and lets others cut in. Sasamoto — forcibly cuts in line. Konchiki — forcibly cuts in line. Shiorina — enters illegally, cuts in line, and lets others cut in. Several additional partially redacted blog URLs follow.

Auction results for GARNET CROW Premium Live invitation tickets, ranging from 275,000 yen down through 151,000, 101,000, 82,000, 81,000, 76,000, 60,100, 56,000, 40,500, 30,000, 29,000, 25,500, 12,000, 11,100, 11,000, and 4,101 yen. Links to the individual Yahoo Auctions follow.

Repeated Premium Live auction results, including a 25,500-yen listing allegedly by Beckham. GARNET CROW Valentine Live auction results are also listed: 250,000 yen for an early seat block, 101,010 yen for seats 1–9, 100,000 yen for a two-digit seat number, and 70,000 yen for seats 100–150.

Quotes a claim that the administrator of a fan site failed the lottery but attended both days anyway, asking how this was possible. It then asks whether that person alone bought both days’ tickets at auction, with a rating link.

Quotes a complaint about a creepy fan wearing a soccer jersey with “AZUKI 7” on the back at the 16th Premium Live. He allegedly jumped around throughout the show and annoyed people behind him. The poster says such fans ruin the experience and should not interfere with other spectators.

GIZA cannot sell records, so it caters to otaku → ordinary people leave → it becomes an underground-idol scene → staff and singers become even more familiar with otaku → ordinary people leave → a vicious cycle. The Premium Live was apparently intended to break that cycle, but regulars received advance information about the selection criteria. As a result, light fans were almost entirely eliminated, producing the opposite effect. In reality, nearly all the regulars got in...

Links to earlier posts about Beckham and Mojio’s inconsiderate behavior during an α-station public broadcast on March 11, including the bouquet incident and their relationship with Mr. Saida. It also links to posts about illegal entry and dangerous behavior at the February 15 and 17 Valentine LIVE shows, including Shiorina’s alleged explanation.

Older posts joke about the ages of several notorious fans, saying Shiorina is the same age as the poster, Mazin is 29, and the first two Aiuchi fans are probably in their thirties. The post says the fan base is aging and jokes that Shiorina wears short sleeves in winter and therefore never catches cold.

More old posts say Shiorina has attended every show since the first one and is the “owner” of Bakery Factory. Another poster says they would rather she work at a bakery, but would not want to eat bread made by someone who enters fan-club lives illegally.

Warning that “yoyogigentei” uses multiple Yahoo IDs to drive up auction prices. Several allegedly linked IDs are listed with a rating URL.

The regulars such as Mazin have terrible manners, according to the poster. A collection of old quotes accuses Mazin of cutting from the back to the front at multiple lives, pushing people aside, and abusing his status as a regular. The posts call for him to be banned from Bakery Factory lives and suggest sending complaint emails.

Comparison of fan behavior: Aiuchi fans use call-and-response chants, signs, fans, filthy clothing, and wild jumping; Saegusa fans do the same; Kuraki fans use fans and jump around; GARNET fans supposedly do little. The poster warns that unless people like Beckham change their behavior, GARNET may eventually become like that too.

Summary of “creepy otaku regulars.” An old quoted post argues that people who desperately need proof that they are impressive are compensating for some deficiency and decorating their outward image because their inner selves do not measure up.

An obscene “Yurippe cheese curry” recipe using bodily fluids and excrement. It is deliberately grotesque sexual shock humor rather than a genuine recipe.

An explicit flowchart debating whether Yurippe is a virgin, ranging from “she has no vagina” and “saint Yurippe” jokes to masturbation, sexual fantasies involving other Being members, and Nana-worship. It is crude sexual trolling.

An extended obsessive fantasy in which the poster becomes a journalist or photographer, repeatedly pursues Yurippe, develops a relationship with her, then abducts her from a hypothetical New Year’s Eve *Kōhaku* appearance before they confess their love at the airport and live happily together.

Quoted football and music-board copypasta: one post accuses Yurippe of copying both Western and Japanese music; another jokes that Brazil and Croatia deliberately failed to let Japan win. A crude ASCII “keyboard” follows, then an extremely explicit sexual parody built from GARNET song titles.

An old post mocks AZUKI Nana’s supposedly embarrassing lyrics, especially “Spiral” and “Bokura Dake no Mirai,” claiming listeners were scared away by them. It sarcastically calls the lyrics painfully cold and accuses Nana of copying them. A reply challenges the poster to show their own original work, followed by a vulgar sexual joke.

ASCII art and a joke praising Nakamura Yuri for recording despite broken ribs, saying the poster also wants a strong body like hers.

“Cursed Tonfa Parman” copypasta: anyone who sees it will die tomorrow, and reposting it elsewhere will not help.

Related threads and archive links for GARNET CROW, Yuri Nakamura, AZUKI Nana, and Hitoshi Okamoto.

Thread usage notes: sage and age are personal choices; open the next thread whenever you want; add a stylish subtitle; continue preserving the thread if the template or title changes too much; aggressively create and reply to GARNET CROW threads across the boards; greetings and chat are allowed; answer ASCII trolling with ASCII; ignore fixed handles; compare GARNET favorably with other artists; live commentary is allowed; post constantly and make this the No. 1 thread on the Japanese music board.

ASCII art of “Bird Flame,” ending with the phrase “Bird Flame lololol.”

An old “Topvalu three-day diet” copypasta lists cheap supermarket food for each meal over three days, claiming it saves 5,000 yen—enough to buy five CDs—and recommends shopping on Jusco customer-appreciation day. http://www.aeon.info/jusco/

“GARNET CROW diva Yuri Nakamura claimed 103. Bow down to the diva, you bastards!” An ASCII vehicle follows, along with a stream of exaggerated insults and praise directed at various Being artists, ending with a command to bury everyone else forever.

An extremely explicit sexual fantasy involving television personalities and celebrities, describing a day of being pampered, fed, bathed, and sexually serviced by them. It ends with the narrator going to work because the company would collapse without him.

>>74-83 This post formally records the previous poster’s replies as the crime of knowingly publishing false information in a publicly viewable place, using an identifiable name or trip despite repeated denials by the person concerned. It says the posts may also serve as evidence of other crimes.

I like “Wasurezak i.” Am I in the majority?

“Wasurezak i” is not a first-press versus regular-edition distinction; it was an initial-production edition.

Dream collaboration achieved!! http://www.vipper.org/vip337969.jpg

What thread is this?

Nooo, one more of my favorite groups is gone... Give me a break orz. Please, GARNET, do not disappear in front of me... I am begging you.

They will disband someday.

They seem like the group with the most staying power in GIZA.

Oh~.

>>107 What is the difference between a first-press edition and an initial-production edition?

>>114 A first-press edition has a different catalog number from the regular edition. An initial-production edition is simply the first batch produced under the regular edition’s catalog number. “Wasurezak i” has only one catalog number, which is why I called it an initial-production edition.

“Crystal Gauge” is genuinely strong. “Maboroshi” is pretty strong too.

The instrumental version of “Maboroshi” sounds like game music.

If they are going as far as this blatantly obvious multiple-purchase strategy, it makes GARNET look painfully desperate. Sales have always been average, and there are hardcore fans, so they have planted multiple-purchase flags everywhere...

>>115 I see. I still do not quite understand the difference between different and identical catalog numbers. In any case, it is true that first-press items are limited, right?

>>110 Condolences to the La’cryma Christi fan.

We cannot discuss the details until the information embargo is lifted, but why is the interview in a women’s magazine of all places...?

>>119 If the catalog number is different, you can still buy it as long as CD shops have not sold out. The same is true of used shops. If it is an initial-production edition with the same catalog number, the bonus is attached to the regular product rather than sold separately, so CD shops will not know to stock it, and the same applies to used shops. For GARNET examples: first-press editions include “MÄR” and “Yume・Hanabi,” each with separate catalog numbers and bonuses. Initial-production bonuses include the fifth-anniversary release with a booklet, the best album with a calendar and Premium Live entry ticket, “Hare-dokei” with MÄR stickers, “Wasurezak i” with a possibly different booklet and case, and “Mysterious Eyes” with what may have been a Conan card. In short, a first-press edition is sold as a separate product from the regular edition, while an initial-production edition is the bonus-bearing first batch of the regular product. Sorry if I have explained this confusingly.

>>121 If you think positively and see it as a way to gain a new fan base, it is fine.

>>122 Oh, I see. Thanks. So initial-production editions are harder to find later, while once a first-press edition sells out they will not manufacture more first-press copies, right?

>>124 An initial-production bonus is limited to the first pressed batch, so unless you happen to find it attached when buying used, it is difficult to obtain. If they could manufacture more, it would not be a first press, lol.

>>125 Right. I am a new GARNET CROW fan, so I am looking for first-press items now, but “Wasurezak i” is genuinely hard to find. I managed to get the best album and “Yume・Hanabi.” The first-press DVD is probably hopeless too...

It feels like a radio tie-in project or something, combined with an appearance in a women’s magazine. Is GIZA actually making an effort this time? >>126 Thinking about it, was there really an initial-production edition of “Wasurezak i”? I have only seen one version.

Oh, I may have remembered incorrectly. Does every CD not have a booklet? I remember buying it because the promotion said only the first press came with one, so sorry if I am mistaken.

>>128 The booklet also serves as the lyric sheet. Maybe the official information was wrong.

Wait, perhaps the regular edition does not have that photograph. But if that is the only difference, it is not worth buying another copy.

I see. The case was the same too, was it not? Sorry for confusing >>126.

Is GARNET appearing on *Ongaku Senshi* today?

Why not check the official site?

The magazine interview had me dying laughing.

Something interesting seems to have come out.

Has “haoting” (・`ω´・) not arrived yet?

Yurippe will heal me.

>>136 Go buy it, lol.

Yukio will give me peace.

Daily chart update: 1. GLAY 2. Kaoru Amane 3. TOKIO 4. Kigurumi 5. GAM 6. GARNET CROW 7. Haruka Ayase 8. GYM 9. Kenichi Asai 10. SE7EN A Top 10 finish for the weekly chart is now in sight.

It is really hanging in there. Is this the TV-drama effect (and the phantom edition)? Still, why is there no *Music Station* at exactly this time? If there were, it surely could have charted...

Apart from GLAY, there is no *Music Station* effect either—none of the others appeared. It is really holding up. Not only a Top 10 finish, but a tie for their highest-ever position is now possible. It may start falling around tomorrow, though. If it keeps holding here, it will be a feat.

4 → 6 → 6. It is unusual for a single to do this.

If it only ties their highest position, the sales numbers would be too embarrassing compared with “Yume Mita Ato de.”

>>144 Compared with then, overall CD sales are declining now, so it cannot be helped. Still, if it can make the Top 10, I hope it sells around 20,000 copies.

Yurippe’s commentary about red: warm red like a sunset or love, and horrific red from war and bombing. She says humans create both beautiful and terrible reds, and wonders which side is the true “phantom.”

...Gross.

>>147 That was Yurippe’s commentary.

>>144 As >>145 said, today’s No. 6 is effectively equal in value to the No. 6 back then, setting sales numbers aside.

>>147 It was Yurippe’s commentary, lol.

It sounded like something Yurippe would say, and it turned out to be her after all. >>147 lol.

>>148 >>150 >>151 Really? lololol. I thought some self-styled critic was saying something disgustingly pretentious.

>>152 If you are a fan, at least read MFM while casually buying the CD, lol.

>>153 Some regions do not carry it. Is that not a little harsh? Though if that is the case, subscribe to it, lol.

>>153 The problem is that no stores carry it at all. I live in the countryside. Imagine it—even Shinseido does not stock it.

>>155 That was wrong of me. Hmm... Since it is a free magazine, should I post the interviews and such from MFM in this thread?

4 → 6 → 6 → 17. That is not going to happen, right? lol

I have not read MFM either, but judging by the writing style and way of speaking, it really does sound like Yurippe’s commentary.

It will probably start gradually dropping from tomorrow, but I do not think it will crash.

Maybe it will rise instead... no, probably not, lol. I think it will gradually fall. Still, since it has held in the Top 10 this long, I am curious what the weekly sales will look like. This was probably a weak week for competition.

4 → 6 → 6 → 8 → 9 → 13 → 16, roughly. Then No. 8 or 9 for the weekly chart.

> Even the phrase “the sky is dyed red” can represent the red caused by war or bombing. That line suddenly made the ending of the song feel especially frightening. Like a bad ending...

I am the person who reported winning earlier. I uploaded it for now; sorry if I did it wrong. The password is “maboroshi.” http://www6.axfc.net/uploader/16/so/N16_4013.jpg.html

>>162 Is there not an even more explicit passage than that? The idea that humans create both warm red and horribly tragic red, and that one side looks like sunsets and beautiful destinations while the other is burned by war and has nowhere to go, really makes me think about which side is the true phantom.

“Maboroshi” is sold out. That is understandable, since this is a rural TSUTAYA that does not even stock Juritan’s new releases. I had no choice, so I came home with a Conan manga.

“Tuutaya”? lol

Ugh~ It is TSUTAYA!

“waiting to be fill.” Make the translation sound cool.

I was lazy, so I ran it through a translation program: “waiting to become filler.”

Yurippe is the universe.

As expected, “Maboroshi” is great.

>>168 “When you live in the night / remember my voice / waiting to be fill.” Literally, it would be “When you live in that night, remember my voice waiting to become something that fills a gap.” “Fill” can at least function as a noun meaning material used to fill a gap. If this is not a lyric-card typesetting error and Nana really intended the passive construction, it is embarrassing. Nana has made repeated mistakes in English lyrics, so the English sections should really be checked by someone knowledgeable first. I mean that sincerely as a fan.

The sea, the river, the sky—same as always. But for the first time in a while, the lyrics also have something that hit me instantly: “Maa~boroshii~.”

I majored in English. >>172 This probably belongs in the Nana thread, but I agree that this is roughly the translation. Nana often writes English by feel, choosing words based on whether their imagery and sound fit. Pointing it out may not change anything. “Fill” does look as though it can be used as a noun, so it is not 100% wrong, but there are certainly many grammatical errors.

Is not English in Japanese pop music often used simply because it sounds good?

“Yellow Moon,” which can make even the voluptuous-breasted Yuri Nakamura blush, has very high expectations.

“Maboroshi” was No. 20 on *Supakan*, and they played the whole song. Thank you so much.

English lyrics are often used for their fit and rhyme, so grammatical errors are not a huge problem. English in Japanese pop music is often childish to begin with, and the mistakes can give it more flavor.

Good night, Yurippe.

>>179 Bury her forever.

Can it hold up tomorrow? It is the daily chart for the day after the TV drama airs, after all.

??

The drama already ended, did it not? What difference would that make?

I listened to Hayama’s arrangement of “Holy ground.” If that is the approach, the first section is fine as it is, but from the second section onward I wish it would become a full-power band sound like Hayama’s.

>>180 I am dying laughing.

It looks like “EDEN” will not reach 20,000 cumulative sales...

>>184 Same here. No matter how hard Hayama tries, he cannot beat the original, so rather than making this half-baked ballad arrangement, I would prefer him to completely destroy it and make a 1990s Being-style band sound like WANDS, DEEN, or Field of View. A collaboration between GARNET and Being at its peak. But I hope this kind of experiment ends here.

An explicit sexual bargain involving Yurippe in exchange for buying the CD.

>>188 That is disgusting.

>>187 For an up-tempo song, layering a band sound may be better than emphasizing light pop appeal. Using it for an MÄR tie-in would also be interesting experimentally.

I watched *Kasōken* once. Although it is the ending theme, the song only plays quietly in the background during the drama and is almost impossible to hear. Even someone deliberately listening for GARNET would struggle, so I doubt it has much effect on ordinary viewers.

Even if it has no effect, I am satisfied as long as “Maboroshi” is good.

If you mean a tie-in with a measurable effect, I do not think that is possible in GIZA.

I have never heard English lyrics this bad... and the sound is so muffled. What is wrong with these people!

Then do not listen to it. That is all you can do.

Yurippe often wears thongs.

It would be sad if she wore full-coverage underwear instead.

>>194 Thanks for coming over after seeing the *Supa* chart.

Two newspaper-style multiple-choice questions. The first asks what is noteworthy about the rise of “clean office-worker” male ideals alongside popular “beloved office-lady” models; the answer is “the gaze of women.” The second asks what modern social trend is responsible for increasing fear of public flatulence; the answer is “a Westernized diet.” Links to the source articles follow.

>>193 In GIZA, perhaps only Kuraki’s “Feel fine!” qualifies. Even that was helped by Shiseido airing an unprecedented number of Sea Breeze commercials. The volume dropped sharply the following year; the timing was probably just luck.

An extremely explicit sexual fantasy in which the poster promises to have sex with Yuri Nakamura if the post lands on number 201, listing numerous costumes and increasingly graphic acts, then imagining marriage and children.

Disgusting.

>>201 I do not think garter belts suit Ms. Yuri. Seriously: stop treating her as a sexual object. I should stop coming to 2ch too, since I am replying to this pointless post orz.

This is a music thread. Take it to that bizarre Yuri thread that is still continuing.

If you insert a cotton swab into Yurippe’s anus, what will stick to it?

No. 9 on the daily chart.

Daily chart: 1. “Natsuoto / Hen na Yume — Thousand Dreams” — GLAY 2. “Taiyō no Uta” — Kaoru Amane 3. “Sora Fune / Do! Do! Do!” — TOKIO 4. “Tarako・Tarako・Tarako” — Kigurumi 5. “Thanks!” — GAM 6. “Fever and Future” — GYM 7. “Tree Climbers” — Kaela Kimura 8. “Kōsaten Days” — Haruka Ayase 9. “Maboroshi” — GARNET CROW 10. “Kaze no Koyomi” — Shinji Tanimura

4 → 6 → 6 → 9.

If you insert a cotton swab into Yurippe’s anus, what will stick to it?

It is going smoothly. It looks like it can make the Top 10.

Going smoothly. Tanimura Shinji is about to overtake us.

Answer: feces.

I do not care about rankings, but losing to Haruka Ayase would still annoy me.

We have beaten her for these three days, so it is too early to say.

Still, ranking below Haruka Ayase would be too much...

>>201 Go to a hospital.

>>209 >>212 I think an idiot like you should die once.

Where can I buy MFM? Do convenience stores sell it?

http://www.mfmagazine.com/ — check the shop list in the upper right.

“Maboroshi” is wonderful. It is my favorite single since “Atsumeru.”

>>219 Thanks. The coverage is pretty limited. No wonder I could not find it anywhere.

I do think “Maboroshi” is good, but I also like “Hare-dokei.”

An extended, rambling monologue about the speaker’s intense admiration for Chunichi Dragons pitcher Masahiro Yamamoto, including nervous interviews with professional baseball players and a story about accidentally asking serious baseball questions during a comedy segment.

I love “Hare-dokei.” Nobody ever mentions it, but I think “Wasurezak i” is a masterpiece...

There still have not been any phantom-edition reports...

There is no point worrying about the ranking. This is an advance single for the album. I would rather GIZA put its effort into the album in two weeks.

There are a lot of people who care about rankings. I actually think it would be better if GARNET CROW were not too famous. The minimum sales needed to keep them active is enough.

Relationship between advance-single sales and the following album: 6th single “flying”: peak 25, 9 chart appearances, 49,390 copies. 1st album *first soundscope — Mizu no Nai Hareta Umi e*: peak 6, 5 appearances, 87,150 copies. 10th single “Yume Mita Ato de”: peak 6, 10 appearances, 93,300 copies. 2nd album *SPARKLE — Sujigaki Dōri no Sky Blue*: peak 4, 9 appearances, 156,410 copies. 14th single “Kimi to Iu Hikari”: peak 7, 10 appearances, 35,190 copies. 3rd album *Crystallize — Kimi to Iu Hikari*: peak 5, 13 appearances, 84,071 copies. 17th single “Wasurezak i”: peak 14, 6 appearances, 25,950 copies. 4th album *I’m waiting 4 you*: peak 11, 10 appearances, 64,347 copies. Advance-single sales do seem to affect the next album, so surpassing the fourth album is entirely imaginable.

I am looking forward to the album version of “Maboroshi.” >>225 There have already been about three reports.

Three people...? Can we calculate that there are roughly 300 thread residents nationwide? Someone calculate it.

It depends on how many copies were in the first shipment.

Does “Maboroshi” look incredibly difficult to sing at karaoke? The range should be manageable, but even when I listen to the instrumental I cannot tell where the pitch is. Also, does anyone know which GARNET song has the lowest low note?

>>230 Hard to say. One person does not necessarily buy one copy.

>>232 The B section of “Trans・Trap” is astonishingly low. When I tried singing it, I mumbled so much that I could not tell what I was singing, lol.

>>232 The A section of “Spiral” is pretty low too.

>>225 Someone posted a photo on mixi.

>>228 Do you know what “advance single” means? Of those, only “Wasurezak i” really counts as one.

>>237 I thought it meant a single released before the album.

>>238 No, I do not think so.

>>239 It does not? Then what does it mean?

It means you can buy it before the release date.

Yukio.

It is a lie, a lie~~! There is no such thing as Hermes-chan or anything like that!!!

>>243 Of course not. It is fictional, duh.

Akihabara-style otaku are seriously disgusting!! They genuinely make people recoil.

The weather forecast sponsor is Tatsuta, lol. On TV it looks like a completely different university.

About how someone says something incredibly boring every day: side discussions about other artists are fine, but sexual jokes are annoying. What is with the people who only comment on appearances? If they think that is funny, it is painfully unfunny.

>>240 It means a single released about a month before the album. Once that single comes out, album information is already public, and if the song will be included on the album, more people think they can skip buying the single. That is why advance singles generally struggle to grow.

I want the phantom edition, so I will buy five more copies.

>>248 It is annoying, but just ignore it for now. It is probably some pitiable person.

I got the post number wrong; I meant >>247.

Yurippe’s vagina. Yurippe’s vagina. Yurippe’s vagina.

I want Yurippe and Nana to have a psychological-analysis conversation.

Their heyday ended long ago, but I suppose they will still hold tenth- and fifteenth-anniversary events.

I would be happy if they stayed together long enough to hold those events. Besides, they are not washed up.

How old is Ms. Nana, anyway?

Late thirties.

Hahahahahahaーーーーーーーーーーーーーー

Apparently she is 31.

Yuri Nakamura Yukio.

>>235 Is the opening note D? That is incredibly low. I doubt it gets any lower, though I have not checked.

Rather than the opening of “Spiral,” the “kangae-te-taaa” part is low, but I do not think it is extraordinarily low for GARNET. The low passages in “Futari no Rocket,” “Rai Rai Ya,” and “Ushinawareta Monogatari” should be lower.

>>261 The sound is not fully voiced there. It may be deliberately whispered. >>262 That part is not low, is it?

I do not buy many singles; I only own “Yume・Hanabi,” “Maboroshi,” and “Spiral.” Considering the C/W tracks, is there a single that you would say I absolutely need to buy?

I feel like someone will dutifully reply, “All of them.”

If possible, I would appreciate narrowing it down to around three.

Listen to samples on BGV and decide.

Once you buy three, you will want to hear the others, so just buy the whole catalog.

I would prefer you listen to everything if you can. Buy three and rent the rest or something...

Why not listen to “Onapet” instead?

Seriously, I think the three songs on “Hare-dokei” are worth buying. Also “Jewel Fish,” “Cried...,” “Crier...,” and “Float World.” The tracks people call the real gems should not disappoint. Personally I also like “Hana,” “Matsuri,” “Aoi Tori,” and “Minami e.”

>>266 They are not an artist with 40 or 50 releases. Listen to samples on BGV (http://www.bgv.jp/) and decide for yourself.

Correction: http://www.bgv.jp/) → http://www.bgv.jp/

>>266 “Rai Rai Ya” and “Kimi wo Kazaru Hana wo Sak asō” have no weak C/W tracks. You should also listen to the coupling song from “Yume Mita Ato de.” You will like it.

“Rai Rai Ya” lololol.

“Rai ★ Rai ★ Ya.” Does that not hurt your eyes?

Hurt your eyes? “Rai ☆ Rai ☆ Ya.”

No, the stars themselves hurt my eyes, so: “Rai × Rai × Ya.”

Not buying singles packed with famous C/W songs, but buying “Yume・Hanabi,” whose coupling is practically offensive, is a waste.

“MÄR”’s opening from October is not by Kishimoto, right? Who is it?

At least it was obvious from the start that the opening would be different, lol.

Gracefully missed out on “Maboroshi.”

I misread that as “Maboroshi gracefully drifted away.”

Do not say disgusting things, idiot.

Among the C/W tracks, “Yuudachi no Niwa” is probably the strongest. “Matsuri no Jikan” and “CANDY POP” are also favorites of mine. Honestly, after a single comes out I look forward to the C/W more, lol.

Is “Yume・Hanabi” not fairly good? To me, “EDEN” is currently the worst, even counting its C/W track.

I prefer “EDEN” to “Yume・Hanabi,” at least.

After thinking about it, I feel “Atsumeru MÄR Heaven” is the one whose C/W tracks are all bad too.

Hey, there is no point doing this. Everyone has different tastes. Something one person hates will always be something someone else likes.

All right, everyone calm down. To summarize: since “Atsumeru MÄR Heaven,” the MÄR tie-in songs have generally not been ideal. Can we call that the final answer? People do not enjoy reading someone repeatedly say “bad song.” Specific explanations of what is bad would be fine.

Yurippe, I love you.

Sorry. I have recently started becoming interested in this band. Could you tell me which songs are guaranteed good starting points?

Start with the first album and listen to everything in order.

>>292 Sorry, but ask that on the fan site. It is difficult to reach a consensus here.

I think the C/W track on “Yume・Hanabi” is ordinary. “Tabi” and “Rinrin” are not bad, but I wish they would mix in more minor-key songs. In that respect, the contrast between “Ushinawareta” and “Nonsense” on “EDEN” works well. Still, please do not release a single with only one C/W and make it merely a different arrangement＞＜

>>294 What do you recommend?

>>292 Start with “Holy ground” from the first album. The first song I heard was “Natsu no Maboroshi,” by the way.

Holy ground. Holy ground. Holy ground. Holy ground. Holy ground.

Thanks to everyone who replied. I will try to buy about three copies a month. >>272 I did not know there was a site where I could listen to samples. I am on a phone, so I will try it when I have access to a PC. >>279 I do not usually buy many releases, but I tried because it was a limited edition.

“Horigu ra” is on the second album. Also, stop bumping the thread.

Normally, I think the best album is the best place to start. If you find songs you like there, or realize you might become a GARNET fan, you will naturally explore the older singles and other albums. If you start looking up Yurippe and Nana on fan sites too, joining the GARNET CROW religion is only a matter of time. Some people here say, “Start with the C/W tracks!” and I can only think, “Idiots.” There is plenty of time to get hooked on C/W and album tracks later.

GARNET fans are generally bad with numbers and English.

>>297 “Holy ground” from the first album.

>>297 “Holy ground” is on the second album. You also misspelled it.

Once you listen to the best album, about half of the original albums will be songs you have already heard. I think it is better to start with the original albums.

Sorry orz. I am purely Japanese, after all (^_^;). I ended up relying on phone conversion.

In this day and age, being Japanese is no excuse.

>>224 I love “Wasurezak i” too. Fans may prefer songs with a stronger GARNET feel, but I think it sounds good even to non-fans.

>>296 These kinds of replies keep appearing lately, and I do not know how to feel. Can I interpret it positively as the fan base gradually growing? I recommend the best album. Listen to that first, then reach out in different directions to explore the rest. If you like the solemnity or madness of progressive rock or metal (GARNET is not those genres, of course), the third album may also be good. Looping “Nogar e no Machi” from it several times is enough to sink into GARNET’s fascinating sound. How many times have I said this already... lol

“Lyrics, music, arrangement: Nana, Yurippe, Ossan. Produced by KANNOJI.” Is that really all the credits say? Nothing more detailed?

No matter how much the fan base grows, Yurippe is mine. I will not give her to anyone.

The two women in GARNET CROW hooked up.

Personally, I think starting with the first album is the easiest way to get drawn into GARNET. Even though it has many singles, the overall flow is so good that you barely notice which are singles and can enjoy a balanced mix of singles and album tracks. I lent the second album to a non-fan and got a great response; perhaps its moderate lightness makes it accessible. The best album may be good for beginners, but are new people coming here lately not mostly here because of “Maboroshi”? If they want that sound, I think the first or third album is a better fit.

The second album has refreshing, lyrical gems like “Sky Blue” and “Holy ground,” so I recommend it as an introduction.

The third album is worth hearing for “Marionette Fantasia” alone.

The C/W “Yofuke no Ryūse itachi” from “Kimi wo Kazaru Hana wo Sakasō” is also excellent~

“HORY”? Come on, everyone, go back and study middle-school English, lol.

Come to think of it, nobody has posted live updates about the awful MÄR show today.

Come to think of it, “Shinku no Tsume” came out today, lolol.

The warning must have worked.

Bartz → Hitoshi Okamoto Lenna → Nakamura Galuf → Hiroto Furui Faris → AZUKI Nana

>>321 Mochi does not work as Bartz in terms of coolness...

Just make Mochi the chocobo.

Mochi → Slime.

AZUKI Nana → Midgardsormr.

Nakamura → Behemoth.

Mochi is Gilgamesh after all, at least as a running joke.

Mochi → Ultros.

I have no idea what you are talking about... orz

They are talking about *Final Fantasy*. Yurippe is a god, so if we force the analogy, she would probably be something like Shinryu.

>>330 Shinryu, lol.

Speaking of FF, there is Aki. Lucky her~

When someone says Aki, I think of *Crying Out Love, in the Center of the World*~

“Maboroshi” is now certain to make the weekly Top 10. Is that the first time since “Atsumeru MÄR Heaven” reached No. 9? Could its opening sales be higher than “Yume・Hanabi”?

When I hear *Sekachu*, all I can think about is “nakadashi,” lol. Takayuki Yamada is amazing—he got someone pregnant and then dumped her, after all.

Probably around 12,000–13,000 for opening sales. Competition is simply weaker overall this time.

I have a bad feeling that Mochi’s radio show will play an album song today...

>>336 Considering the idiots buying for the phantom edition and the TV tie-in, I have a feeling it could reach around 15,000.

Ah, I am an idiot, an idiot. I bought “Maboroshi” today along with another artist’s CD. I had not planned to do that. orz

GARNET’s view of music is far from pure romance... Are these Nana’s lyrics?

Is *MÄR Heaven* still not over? They have really become its exclusive singers.

Did that group called GARNET CROW appear?

Yurippe will steal your heart.

1 Kaoru Amane 2 GLAY 3 TOKIO 4 Kigurumi 5 GYM 6 GAM 7 Shinji Tanimura 8 Kaela Kimura 9 Haruka Ayase 10 GARNET CROW

It held on again? Unbelievable.

4 → 6 → 6 → 9 → 10. A Top 10 weekly finish is now guaranteed.

That is all thanks to me buying five copies at once for the phantom edition. They were all regular editions, though orz.

That is enough... The battle is over... You have done well.

Only three people here won? That is too few. It means there are too few residents.

Ah. I did not win either...

I won Nana’s vagina.

Then I will bet on Nana’s next chessboard set.

How many people are there, anyway...

There are not even any copies listed on auction sites. Could they still be lying in a manufacturer’s or wholesaler’s warehouse? If you had connections, you could inspect one beforehand. Ah, sorry—that is just the resentment and delusion of someone who missed out. Maa-boro-shi~

So is it possible that some will remain in a warehouse for their entire lives...?

Signed copies? Something like that is destined to be a phantom.

Probably No. 7 on the weekly chart?

1 GLAY 2 Kaoru Amane 3 TOKIO 4 Kigurumi 5 GAM 6 GYM 7 Haruka Ayase 8 GARNET CROW 9 Kaela Kimura 10 Shinji Tanimura That would be fine.

The point is that I do not want to lose to Haruka Ayase.

I am a new fan who started with the best album. After listening through both discs several times, the songs I play most often are “Natsu no Maboroshi,” “falling,” “Wasurezak i,” and “Spiral.” Sorry, my memory is fuzzy, so there are probably others, but I am too lazy to check.

They have beaten her for three days, after all.

Are you really going to develop a rivalry with Ayase over a gap of only about one ranking tier? What did Ayase ever do to you? (＾＾)

An extremely graphic sexual-threat fantasy targeting “Yukio,” describing rape, bondage, sexual assault, filming, and forced feeding. It is abusive sexual trolling.

I see. So that is what this is about, lol. Sorry.

Ahh... lol.

>>237 I do not know whether you were serious or joking, but terminology should be used accurately when communicating with others, and I support correcting errors. As for ID:DEE4AGp10’s “advance single,” >>228 makes it clear that they meant every single released before the album. By contrast, as >>248 says, ID:gtG8geSB0 means a single released about a month before the album, which is probably the more common usage. But there is nothing wrong with analyzing the relationship between sales and the album using the former definition. The same issue often arises with the expressions “mato wo eru” versus “mato wo iru.” Language does not need to be policed excessively at the word level in an argumentative essay. What matters most is the claim and its evidence. Use terms consistently and define them clearly; otherwise debates about who knows what become unproductive. Even a minor wording error does not reduce an argument’s value, while flawed data or statistical analysis can reduce it to zero.

>>321-327 Image: http://asame3.web.infoseek.co.jp/cgi-bin/data/IMG_011283.gif Top left: Lenna → Nakamura. Top center: Bartz → Okamoto. Top right: Gilgamesh → possibly Okamoto. Bottom left: Faris → AZUKI. Bottom center: Galuf → Furui.

Since the start of this year, I feel like I have heard GARNET songs playing everywhere. Does that mean GARNET is becoming famous...?

Furui’s arrangements increasingly feel godlike. When I heard “Mikansei na Neiro,” I thought, “This is a great retro arrangement defying the era.” After hearing more, I realized there are many great arrangements that move with the times too. The final proof is “Nakenai Yoru mo Nakanai Asa mo”—the arrangement is godlike.

What value can there be in the impressions of someone whose opinions keep changing? Go die.

I do not care whether the tie-in is an anime, game, or TV drama, but please spare us MÄR. The fifth album is fine, but “Kaze to Rainbow” has already made me... orz

ID:IBLVZZY30.

Are there any pictures of Yurippe from childhood published anywhere?

>>371 If other tie-ins also use the same “brightness” as MÄR, there is not much difference. It may be premature to say this before release and broadcast, but I am already buying “Kaze to Rainbow” for the C/W. It feels like an extension of “Hare-dokei” and “Atsumeru MÄR,” right?

Let MÄR go down with them.

Do you all really hate the MÄR songs that much!? I actually like them (・ω・)/

Sorry! I forgot to use sage!!

I can barely forgive “Hare-dokei” and “EDEN.”

It is strange how everyone gets excited at live shows as soon as a MÄR song plays.

>>373 No. There are no childhood pictures of the members either.

>>379 I understand that. Is it because there is a higher proportion of fast songs?

By the way, can you still get a numbered ticket for tomorrow’s Shibuya event?

When all is said and done, “Yume Mita Ato de” is god-tier.

I thought “GARNET CROW” in MÄR was just the name of a weapon. Is it today’s subtitle? lol

>>383 I agree to the point of madness.

There are so many god-tier songs that I am almost saturated.

There seemed to be many from the early period through before the third album, but lately...

“Rai Rai Ya” is the god-tier one.

In the space of one day, the strongest song in my mind changed from “Marionette Fantasia” to “Kimi Tsuresaru Toki no Otozure wo.”

Nana is the god.

Nana is the god.

Yesterday “Nonsense” was the strongest; today it is “CANDY POP.”

Can a god-tier song really keep changing like that? I have thought “Last Love Song” was god-tier since the first time I heard it. Then “Blue” and “EDEN.”

Ziraya.

GIZA’s commercial voice-over is disgusting. There are also far too many Saegusa commercials. She has not sold and will not sell. Do something about it; this is not playing house.

I only realized today how godlike “Holy ground” is. The harmonies and lyrics are both incredible; it is amazing even on a re-listen.

>>396 A little late.

>>395 If Nakamura or Aiuchi did GIZA’s commercial voice-over, the impact would be huge.

“Kimi Tsuresaru” was the song that got me into GARNET CROW.

>>398 I remember the members used to do it themselves. When did it become some inexplicable person?

Anyone going to tomorrow’s early listening event, please post a report!

>>398 If it were Komatsu... nobody would notice.

Nana’s voice-over around the time of the second album was good.

Until this weekend I had only been listening to “EDEN” and “Nonsense,” but I finally started listening to “Maboroshi.” It feels like a long song that was edited down. If it were rearranged, I think extending the intro-to-chorus section and the part from the “hum” to the interlude would be good; even six minutes would work.

Was that Mochi during “Spiral”? I also like the deep, distinctive sound of Ossan’s voice.

You remember something that specific? lol

>>367 Yurippe → accidental panty shot, lol. Mochi → What is this, Mr. Masaru? lol

<Professional-baseball-style Yurippe cheer song> “We entrust our dreams to that clear singing voice; melodies play and draw a rainbow—diva Yurippe.”

How many years has it been since I woke up this early? The trip was exhausting, so I went to bed before ten. “Maboroshi” moves me more when I listen at this hour than during the day.

>>396 Same here, lol. I did not think much of “Holy ground” at first and barely listened to it, but I never expected it to be this godlike. Now I listen to both the original and that version every day.

What is “Holy ground”?

Too many people use the word “god” casually. You can have many favorite songs, but “god-tier song” should refer to only a tiny number of them.

Lurk for six months before asking.

>>411 Fishing this early in the morning, huh?

Stop bumping the thread.

>>411 “Seichi” means holy land: land closely associated with gods, Buddhas, saints, or the origins of a religion and regarded as sacred, such as Jerusalem.

I like Yurippe’s distinctive singing at the beginning of “Ushinawareta Monogatari.” Part of Nana’s lyrics in this song saved me.

Ah, that answers >>411. I am not that fond of it... The intro is quite plain too. I just listened to the second album: “Naked Story” is good from intro to verse, chorus, and C section. “Wish★” is probably only good in the intro, lol. I will leave out my thoughts on songs duplicated on the best album.

The fisherman himself, lol.

>>380 Thanks. I wish the lyric booklet had even a tiny childhood photo. I would buy five copies for that, lol.

The highlights of the second album are “pray” and “Sky Blue.”

Among GIZA artists I remember, I think only Shizukusa has done that: not in the lyric booklet, but a childhood photo appears after removing the CD.

>>418 Do you listen only to the melodies?

Judging GARNET solely by melody is a serious problem.

An old post argues that, despite everything, this is better than another group repeatedly releasing bad songs. For Ueki, it would be wiser in the long run to carefully develop her and keep providing good songs instead of chasing immediate sales.

It is also painful that hit songs still depend on the B’z-style formula and Conan.

Ueki was finished by the first album. She had been doing quite well before her debut.

“Secret Code” is good, though—the first album. Come to think of it, there are also songs from the indie period casually composed by Ossan.

It feels like a half-baked album collecting songs that might appeal to ordinary listeners. It left me disillusioned.

>>428 There are also songs composed by Mochi.

GARNET has no right to say that when MÄR is how they got hit songs, lol. My CD shelf looks like an anime fan’s shelf now.

The reality is that MÄR songs have hardly become hits. Honestly, rather than GARNET relying on MÄR, MÄR is relying on GARNET. It is annoying.

There are more idiots in this thread now.

Yeah.

>>432 Is that so? From GIZA’s perspective, they probably think making it a MÄR song will add at least a little to GARNET’s sales, which is why they use the tie-in. But what benefit does MÄR get from using a GARNET song? It feels as if any artist would do and GARNET was chosen for no clear reason. Leaving aside “Atsumeru MÄR Heaven,” modern anime rarely has old-fashioned “anime songs.” Even “Atsumeru MÄR” only forces the title into the chorus; as a whole it is not an especially stereotypical anime song.

>>429 The emotional quality of the early period was neatly shaved away. Pleasant melodies and reasonably layered arrangements are lined up as a collection of half-baked songs. It completely ignores Ueki’s punkish image. Before even discussing song quality, the black-and-white album concept itself is strange; it is unclear what “black” and “white” signify. >>431 MÄR attaching itself to us has caused a lot of trouble.

>>435 I genuinely do not understand what GIZA is thinking. It is hard to reach a conclusion, but one thing is certain: it is absolutely not beneficial to either side.

>>436 “Natsu no Aru Hi” is the worst. Rather than pandering to ordinary listeners, it would be better in the long run to make an album that satisfies longtime fans from the indie era. GIZA greedily wants to add ordinary fans too, and gets carried away as soon as something sells.

>>437 Yes. Not only GARNET CROW, but at some point the whole music industry developed the attitude that every song must be tied to some TV program. That trend has even invaded the otaku-oriented anime world, which feels unfortunate for both artist fans and anime fans.

I do not care if anime fans suffer.

>>437 Personally, among the MÄR tie-ins, only “Hare-dokei” and “Yume・Hanabi” are barely good. This is the harm MÄR has caused: it narrowed GARNET’s worldview beautifully. >>438 Exactly. That song is terrible, especially the lyrics. Even considering the music and arrangement, I think it is the worst. Though the whole album has bad lyrics: “I want you to hold me first~,” “Please hold me even if I am covered in wounds~”... It does not fit Ueki’s image at all and is painfully tacky.

>>439 GIZA is different. Its strategy is to desperately secure tie-ins and then release every one as a single. That is why we got three consecutive monthly releases. The members themselves said they did not expect it.

>>441 I dislike “Yume・Hanabi.” It does not feel like GARNET and sounds like an old kayōkyoku song. “Hare-dokei” and “EDEN” are barely acceptable. I can tolerate “Kizudarake demo Dakishimete” if I ignore the lyrics. This is off topic, so let us stop here.

Apart from “Atsumeru,” I like all the MÄR tie-in songs.

I think tie-ins are no longer necessary. They may be indispensable for increasing sales, but GIZA’s characteristic is that almost only fans buy the releases anyway. If tie-ins with little effect are unnecessary, I wish they would let the artist make music freely.

>>431 I am dying laughing. Exactly. From an outsider’s perspective, I must look like either a Conan fan or an MÄR fan.

The Conan tie-in is a hundred times better than MÄR. I only want them to keep the Conan tie-ins; Conan is one of the few effective slots Being can get.

Come to think of it, when I bought “EDEN” early at TSUTAYA, did the clerk think I was an anime fan and quietly slip me a flyer of that sort? orz

“Atsumeru MÄR”? What is that? There is no such song; GARNET CROW never made anything like that...

Do not erase it from existence too, lol.

>>443 If we are talking about what does not sound like GARNET, all of them qualify, lol. “Yume・Hanabi” has hard guitar riffs, a rushing melody, and a powerful modulation; it deviates from GARNET’s musicality but is still interesting and good. I dislike “EDEN” because the intro through the A section creates an appropriately dark mood, but the chorus is inexplicably too catchy. The song’s structure feels scattered.

I wish the holidays would end already. Nothing but boring people.

Contamination cleared.

I was wondering why everyone kept leaving blank lines, then realized I was doing it too.

If recent GARNET songs feel strange to someone, I think they should listen to rock and pop from the 1980s and ’90s. It is not about generations or which is better; music from that era had a different kind of variety. Furui occasionally borrows things from that period too.

An extremely graphic sexual fantasy targeting Yukio, involving forced sexual acts, rape, bondage, and humiliation. It is abusive trolling rather than music discussion.

“Yukio, die” repeated hundreds of times as spam.

>>448-449 I am dying laughing, lol.

After “Kaze to Rainbow,” I want a depressing song that makes people want to throw away their entire lives.

GARNET’s impact is weak at first, as usual. But lately there are also many songs that still feel merely average even after repeated listening.

Yurippe is in a slump lately. Maybe the man she is dating is no good.

>>461 Sorry.

“Yukio, die” repeated as another long spam post.

I cannot see anything except Yurippe.

I like Nana＼(^_^)／

At this time of day, how many people have already listened to the album early?

Come to think of it, it is today. I really want to go...

I deliberately did not go. I can listen to it in two weeks anyway.

Reading the impressions of people who went sounds painful...

I went. As for the non-single songs: they are all terrible, the first bad album. Though there was one whose lyrics I thought were good... Which track was it again...

>>466 Seven people.

>>470 Really? You mean not simply that they are not to your taste, but that they are bad even compared with GARNET’s previous work?

Yes, yes. It has only been twenty minutes. I think you should die.

I did wonder, “You already listened to it?” but I asked anyway, lol. So it was bait, lol. Ahaha, die (^^).

Sorry, >>473 fooled me. It was all a lie. Sorry.

>>475 Enough talk; go hang yourself.

Ahaha (^^). I will say it again: would you like to die? Let us wait for a real attendee to post a report.

Leaving aside trash like >>475, “Maboroshi” is No. 14 on the daily chart.

No. 14 on the daily chart.

He really is an honest, well-behaved boy.

No. 14...? It dropped. Though I expected it.

4 → 6 → 6 → 9 → 10 → 14. It is barely on the edge of the Top 10.

Why are GARNET’s sales missing from Yamachan Land? This makes no sense.

It dropped... but Haruka Ayase, its close rival, is 16th, so GARNET led her for four days total.

You do not need to be so competitive with Ayase, lol.

Why is the MÄR tie-in “Atsumeru” a bad song while the Tales tie-in “flying” is god-tier? What makes the difference?

Because MÄR is crap.

Because GARNET used to be god-tier.

The only one who can be called god-tier is Yurippe.

The MÄR songs have electric guitar. It drives me crazy! No taste at all!!!!!

Please upload “Twilight Curry,” lol.

Will impressions really start appearing here in a few hours? Albums and singles feel different, and I personally want to keep everything and listen slowly... It may be better not to read this thread for now.

“Yukio, die” repeated as a very long spam post.

“Timeless Sleep” on the second album sounds different from the best-album version. Rather than cute, the voice is higher and thinner.

Someone will surely listen to a few samples and declare the album crap...

That is the same level as someone who listens to a few samples and praises the album wildly.

☆ GARNET CROW food: “Twilight Curry.” Drinks: “Nakamura family soy latte” (Yuri Nakamura), “AZUKI matcha milk” (AZUKI Nana), “God Hand” (Hiroto Furui), and “Okamoria sangria” (Hitoshi Okamoto).

There are no reports at all. Were they all assassinated?

J-POP CAFE Shibuya, Garden Space. September 18 (Monday): Session 1: 18:30–19:30 Session 2: 20:00–21:00 Session 3: 21:30–22:30 Session 1 has just ended. Most people probably attended all three, lol.

Another long “Yukio, die” spam post.

Important notice: bring the *THE TWILIGHT VALLEY* flyer included with the September 13 “Maboroshi” single. It will be exchanged for a numbered ticket and stamped, then returned after confirmation. The Garden Space only sells drinks, and each person may receive one ticket. If they stamp it, does that mean you cannot enter again? The third rule is the key: you can only enter once.

Solving that problem is what makes you an otaku, lol.

...As expected, nobody went.

>>502 You mean buying three copies of “Maboroshi,” disguising yourself three times, and sneaking in? lol

ASCII art: “It seems a matsutake mushroom has grown in this thread.”

>>484 We cannot lose to a gimmick singer like that.

Another very long “Yukio, die” spam post.

>>497 I saw someone on mixi who ate Twilight Curry.

Mixi is disgusting.

>>509 I do not care what people say about mixi. Anyway, was Twilight Curry tasty?

From an ordinary person’s perspective, 2ch is probably more disgusting, orz.

Is Twilight Curry not just Hoshi no Ōji-sama curry?

Mixi is that popular site, right?

I use mixi too, technically, but it is such a hassle that I have not written anything. There is a GARNET CROW community, but everyone is just being overly friendly, which is boring to watch.

In the end, 2ch is best. Not that it is good, but why does 2ch feel like this? Maybe people who dislike fan sites gather here.

Because 2ch is anonymous, you can say whatever you think freely.

The hardcore fans all come here, right? Fan sites are for middle- and high-school students.

Exactly; mixi is also just people being overly friendly. It is like a fan site. Here you can hear frank opinions on the early-release day.

So do not cry if someone calls the album crap.

Another very long “Yukio, die” spam post.

I hope mixi collapses soon. That forced friendliness is disgusting... Though being too confrontational is not good either.

One thing is clear: since the MÄR tie-in, elementary- and middle-school students have become regulars here. Elementary-school children with poor vocabularies but more selfishness than anyone, and middle-schoolers deep in puberty with no self-awareness—this is their gathering place. It is not boring to watch, but excessive hostility is a problem. An old ASCII image says, “Please use this place happily!” and “Please use it peacefully!”

I agree with the two lines above.

Ahaha (*^-^)b

GARNET fans are all kind children like Yurippe.

In the kissing scene between Kazuya Kamenashi and Misaki Ito in that drama, did they play “EDEN”? I am sure someone else thought so and panicked, lol. Or maybe “flying.” By the way, it was the intro to Ayaka’s “Real Voice.”

Not similar at all.

>>526 Sorry, I have no interest in low-rated dramas^^;

>>526 Middle-schoolers should be in bed by now＾＾

>>526 It sounds a tiny bit similar in the intro. We would be troubled if it were mistaken for that kind of song, though (＾＾).

Seriously, it is normal for current middle-school students to go to bed between 11 and 12. I saw it in some news article.

Let me say this too: if you could mistake it for that song, perhaps there is something wrong with your ears...＾＾ Go to an ENT clinic! Go! Go! Go! Right now! Seriously, nobody is posting a report.

The person posting dozens of times alone is annoying...

Anyway, I understand: you are bored enough to post things like this deliberately.

Such an immediate reaction. Cute, huh?＾＾

But seriously, did nobody who went today come back? There are no reports at all.

They were all killed by Minna Shinebaiinoni.

Natural disasters have been intense lately~. This is no time to stand around in “Hakanasa ni Tatteiru,” Yurippe. Sing more “Oinaru Ai.”

I bought “EDEN” and “Maboroshi” today...

>>539 Huh? Yours is...

>>539-540 ...? lol

>>540 We have the same ID, lol. How strange, lol.

Correction: I meant >>541.

Yurippe is the beauty of this world.

It is definitely self-conversation, lolol.

Go vote too: http://mobi.tv-asahi.co.jp/music/i/index.html. Maybe you will see GARNET CROW.

>>545 What is funny about doing such a boring fake conversation? lol. It is real, though; there is no way to prove it unless the other person replies.

Sometimes IDs collide depending on the carrier. True or false? The answer is true.

ID collisions occasionally happen on 2ch. Anyone who finds that mysterious should lurk for three years before returning.

>>549 I have used 2ch for three years, and this is my first ID collision, lol. It really is incredibly pointless.

I attended the early listening event. I entered the first session; fewer than 100 people came. The seats were mostly full, but nothing unusual happened. The Premium Live footage included “Hare-dokei” in full, though it is unclear whether that means it will be on the DVD. Yurippe’s outfit was cute. As for the new album, there are no obvious throwaway tracks. Yurippe also seemed confident when introducing the songs, which was reassuring. Skipping the singles, my five favorites are below. The first album track is a god-tier song as usual. Overall it has a stronger rock flavor, and the acoustic guitar sounds great. Photos of AZUKI appeared throughout the lyric background. “Anywhere”: It was not played in full, but Yurippe said it was the hardest song for her to sing. The lyrics and music feel dark and very GARNET-like; it seems like a song that grows on you. “Kakurenbo”: The lyric rhythm is good. It may be Latin-flavored, with an atmosphere like “Bokura Dake no Mirai.” “Himawari no Iro”: A song with a nostalgic GARNET feel. “Haru Matsu Hana no Yō ni”: They played the live version, and since it was my first time hearing it, the melody did not stick much; it also seems like a grower. “WEEKEND”: Its style and lyrics make it perfect as the album’s closing track.

The back of the flyer says... I do not understand why people are waiting for listening reports. What does hearing a few people’s subjective opinions accomplish? Instead of the empty “I see, thanks for the report” friendliness, go to the fan site. Is it not enough to use the general impression in *CD Data*?

When I heard “Please, Forgive Me,” I thought, “I have heard this before.” Was it used in a tie-in?

>>553 I thought so too. It should not have had a tie-in, though...

>>551 Thanks for the report! I am relieved that it was not an exaggerated spoiler.

>>554 It also feels like something I heard long ago. Is there a similar song?

> Overall it has a stronger rock flavor. Just seeing that gives me an ominous orz feeling...

How strong is the rock flavor going to be...?

>>557 Do not fixate on wording and minor details. Just wait and enjoy it on release day. Knowing the contents before buying is not much fun anyway. Hold out for about two more weeks.

Are the members staying in Tokyo tonight? I feel like they will at least record some TV program.

Are the members staying in Tokyo tonight? I feel like they will at least record some TV program.

The first album had a new-folk-rock foundation with dark pop; the second added ethnic and disco elements and was highly diverse; the third had harder tones and hints of progressive rock; the fourth was saturated with darkness. What will the next one be like?

Nothing is uglier than a thread becoming childish.

That is true of all 2ch.

>>562 That is all your subjective opinion. Take that flyer-back nonsense somewhere else. People who jump to conclusions like that are irritating.

What is “Yellow Moon” like, the song whose lyrics were supposedly so intense that Yurippe hesitated while singing them?

Oh right, there was a story like that. What is it really like? >>551, just tell us roughly, please.

I went to the listening event. They handed out the full lyrics when we entered, which made me happy, but took them back when we left, which was disappointing. Still, otherwise they would certainly leak. There seemed to be numbered tickets left. Apparently they did not even reach 300 people. Brief impressions: “Anywhere” → The structure resembles “Yūzuki yo” or “U.” “Rusty Rail” → A very GARNET-like mid-tempo song. I personally like it. “Kakurenbo” → The lyrics are scarier than expected. The combination with the Latin style is uncanny. Yurippe apparently likes it best; I like it too. “Himawari no Iro” → Apparently written with a certain painter as its model. It did not leave a strong impression. “Marginal Man” → A bright song that feels likely to become a live staple. “Yellow Moon” → Rock-flavored like “Nogar e no Machi.” The lyric writing may be somewhat unusual. “Mō Chotto Sagashite Mimashō” → Feels like it will be lively live. The pitch is very high, which surprised me (high E?). “WEEKEND” → Feels like the album’s theme itself: a calm song suited to a sunset.

> “Himawari no Iro” was apparently written around a certain painter. It must be Van Gogh.

I went to the second session. Memorable points: the person in the front row played air drums along with the songs, which was hilarious. Yurippe explained each song while playing background music. The explanations were nice, but honestly I wanted to hear only the songs. “Haru Matsu,” and all non-single songs, ended after just one chorus; some even started at the chorus, so we barely heard them. Everyone received a lyric photocopy, which was collected at the end. A signed “Maboroshi” was displayed. The “God Hand” cocktail was not good. The line that stuck with me was, “Because I am an oni, lol.” I may write a musical report later.

When did she say, “Because I am an oni,” lol? During “Kakurenbo”?

Probably “Kakurenbo,” lol.

No singer changes as much between first impressions and later listens as GARNET CROW.

If numbered tickets were still available, I should have gone. I want to hear “WEEKEND.”

ASCII art of four figures arranged around a platform.

Hearing the album too early takes some of the fun out of it. About a week early might be okay, at least. I am probably the kind of person who wants to wait with anticipation.

What was the age range and gender ratio of the attendees?

>>576 Exactly. If I listen, I want to concentrate.

>>576 I am the impatient kid who cannot wait, so I have suffered plenty. If you listen early, the album gets boring quickly after release. I am trying to endure it this time and make it a habit.

Same here. To keep the album from getting boring quickly, I have limited myself to only a few listens of the singles since “Hare-dokei.”

>>575 I am dying laughing, lololol.

>>575 Thanks, bro.

This is otaku promotion disguised as something else. GIZA otaku do this all the time. It is annoying, though.

☆ Congratulations on No. 7 for the weekly chart ★ Ayase is No. 8 ★ Even though they botched the album release week, at least the rescheduled “Maboroshi” did not fall below No. 8♪ More importantly, I wish they would move the fifth album back one or two weeks too.

>>584 If that is what happened, I guessed correctly. In any case, congratulations on tying their second-highest position ever, and congratulations on returning to the Top 10 after one year and four months.

This is hard to read.

>>565 I understand what you are trying to say, but the “that is just subjective” retort is completely off topic. >>568 “Himawari no Iro” and “Yellow Moon” sound interesting. It is Van Gogh, right? Sunflowers. I do not think it is going to be a dark depiction of loneliness or emptiness; I imagine a warm scene.

I am going to fall asleep listening to “Maboroshi.” Good night, Ossan.

GARNET CROW’s 24th single: “Kaze to RAINBOW” 01 Kaze to RAINBOW 02 happy birthday, soshite... 03 Yukibotaru 04 Kaze to RAINBOW — Instrumental GZCA-4854, 1,260 yen tax included. Release date: December 12, 2006.

All right, thanks for the joke. It said “planned for this autumn.” The catalog number alone proves it is a joke, lol. You worked hard! ...Since you have gone this far, I will take the bait.

>>585 Congratulations on the Best 10! I wish the fifth album’s release week could be moved to the 18th, or at least the 11th↓↓ It is the biggest chance♪

I oppose moving it back because I want to hear it sooner (^ω^).

You are embarrassing yourself. Rankings are not the most important thing, right? Perhaps that week really is not ideal, as you say. But whether the rank is low in a competitive week or high in a weak week, sales are more important than the chart. I have said this many times: do not forget what happened with the fourth album.

I also oppose moving it because I want to hear it sooner, lol. I care a little about the number of copies sold, but rankings do not matter to me.

>>593 Moving it back would let it rank higher and give it better publicity!? Everyone says they do not care about sales, but if they sell even a little more, Ms. Nakamura can make higher-quality music more easily! I want them to use live strings♪

That is just an otaku fantasy.

Sorry (>_<｡). I just love Ms. Nakamura’s music, so I want more people to know them, and I hope you understand that I am saying this for GARNET’s sake o(^o^)o.

We understand, so change that writing style first.

I do not understand calling the third album progressive rock. It does not feel anything like Pink Floyd or Yes. Can someone explain it so someone like me, who is not familiar with progressive rock, can understand?

>>598 Sorry (>_<｡). I will try to use a cute “dao” style from now on. Today at the cultural festival I performed Mika’s “Ai Sut er u,” but I will promote GARNET’s songs too↑. >>593 I am new here, so I did not know about the fourth-album incident☆ So something scary happened then (>_<｡).

Why not just die?＾＾

Before you guys visit me next time, I will be waiting to see the results of your GARNET promotion (^ω^).

What a feisty person, lol. Welcome ('A｀).

>>599 It only feels somewhat similar in atmosphere, does it not? My impression of progressive rock is philosophical lyrics, a mixture of many styles, lots of odd time signatures, and very long songs. When I hear Yes, I think, “Ah, this is progressive rock,” while Pink Floyd sounds more psychedelic or blues-based to me. Still, it is called progressive rock because... Sorry, I do not even know what I am saying, lol. Anyway, it feels somewhat progressive.

The person in question is 56 years old.

Good night, Yurippe.

Good morning.

There are many people who have fallen apart over the long weekend.

“Put on the shoes I bought yesterday~♪” I stepped in dog poop... orz

Congratulations on No. 7 for the weekly chart.

Latin? Latin!? Latin?? GARNET is Nordic, though~ Which is why “Crier” is the strongest.

Good morning. It feels as if the long rain at summer’s end has finally ended.

>>599 “Progressive rock” originally means rock that is progressive★ Absorbing classical elements and pursuing grand, large-scale works was innovative at the time, but now so many bands only imitate that formula that it has declined into a mere stylistic convention. That is why even symphonic German-prog bands and groups like Davis Heat are treated as progressive, and techno can also be categorized as progressive. If we use the original meaning and apply it to the third album, then the third album is genuinely 100% progressive★ Your discomfort probably comes from the strong image of progressive rock after it became a stylistic convention★

If reverse-translation software is such a hassle, stop using it.

>>613 Please just speak Japanese.

lol

I feel like neither “EDEN” nor “Maboroshi” has a line that stays in my heart. Is it because I have not listened enough?

Who is the person in black who appears in the “Maboroshi” PV?

>>595 There are not many people these days who only care about rankings like you. Few people buy something just because it ranks high. Most of the recent high-ranking releases are Johnny’s, but that does not mean you will listen to Johnny’s, right? Thinking that higher sales automatically produce better music is wrong. Still, why was the early period so godlike? lol >>597 I understand that when a best album comes out, at least one new person will become a fan because of it. But if your priorities are rankings over sales, I do not think you are truly thinking of GARNET’s interests. >>600 You did not know about that despite all you have said? “I’m waiting 4 you” ranked No. 11 with 35,917 copies in 2004. That is the incident: despite those opening sales, it could not make the Top 10. I also thought, “If it had been released a week earlier, it could have made it...” I am not normally on the rankings-over-sales side, but that experience really taught me not to be misled by charts.

Corrections to my previous post: “When a best album is released, at least one new person comes along,” not “When it is released without greed...” And “Despite everything I said about rankings, you did not know that?” Apparently I was not fully awake.

>>619 Why are you engaging with an idiot?

Anyway, I think I should at least teach them the rankings-over-sales point, as well as the fourth-album incident.

This is the story of how someone who engages with an idiot is also an idiot.

You have to answer an idiot in an idiot’s own language. And then (ry.

What is this? I wondered why the replies suddenly multiplied so quickly; an idiot has descended.

Did Yurippe attend yesterday’s event? I should have gone...

>>618 Mami Miyoshi.

>>627 I am dying laughing, lol.

Opening sales: 13,000. For an advance album single with an expired tie-in and only one C/W, that is quite an effort. All thanks to the creepy otaku buying multiple copies for the phantom edition.

Hey, lol. Dir en grey’s next song is apparently titled “Hōre,” lolol.

>>630 Listen to “Tsumi to Batsu,” then bury yourself forever.

The live... orz

They are not coming near me this year either! The main reason I joined the fan club was priority ticket reservations, so this is pointless. Besides, they have fewer shows than Saegusa.

They are comingーーーー!!!!! This is the happiest news of the year!!!!! It is good to be alive!!!!! I will go anywhere in Japan☆

Haoting, upload “Maboroshi” already, idiot.

Is it an email from G-NET, or did the official site update? I am on a phone, so please give me the details, generous master...

It is an email. The number of live shows decreases smoothly every year.

No matter how much they cut, they will still play Osaka and Tokyo, right? Surely it cannot get any smaller than this.

It is an email? Anyway, tell me whether Nagoya is included. Maybe it is better not to ask too many details yet?

Can we interpret this as meaning there will be additional shows? They have fewer shows than Saegusa, whose sales are not even half of GARNET’s. It feels as if the members do not want to tour, lol.

Weekdays are really difficult.

>>639 Only a very small number of major Japanese cities.

If shows are on weekdays, only local people can attend. Even if it ends up being only Tokyo and Osaka, weekends would be a different matter.

Correction: “not wanting to do it,” not the typo “not being able to do it.”

I doubt protesting would accomplish anything.

Why were additional shows added for the first live?

How can I be missing emails? I checked and did not receive volumes 50 or 62, and this one has not arrived either.

>>647 Same here. I did not even receive the GIRLS POP email mentioned last time... Am I being cold-shouldered?

Only two shows?! Then joining the fan club really is completely pointless...

Am I the only one who thinks the intro of “Maboroshi” sounds exactly like “SKY”???

>>650 I have always thought they sounded alike too, lol.

When I put in the CD, “At twilight~” immediately came to mind. Why make the intros so similar?

Rather than similar, it is practically identical. If you listen only to the first five seconds, you cannot tell which song it is.

The guitar pattern is almost exactly the same. “Yūzuki yo” is like that too.

>>653 The rhythm is different, so you can tell them apart.

Can I rant here? Is criticizing it off topic? Never mind. Why does “Maboroshi” have only a previously released “Holy ground” as its C/W? I expected a much bigger change, but only the backing accompaniment after the original part changed; the melody and song itself are identical. What is the purpose of this arrangement? Did they simply have no song suitable for a C/W? The “EDEN” C/W was also unlike their previous C/W tracks and not interesting to listen to. Was there any point in forcing three consecutive monthly releases? I would rather they take more time to polish the songs. Compared with early GARNET, current GARNET feels to have lost its sparkle. Have they reached their limit...?

>>656 I understand. GARNET at the time of the first album was god-tier. They are probably declining now...

No. 7: “Maboroshi,” GARNET CROW, 13,347 copies. Because its daily-chart trend was good, I expected around 17,000, but it did not reach that. Since it is an advance single, some people probably chose not to buy it yet.

To judge whether they have reached their limit, wait until you have heard the album.

They have not declined! >>656-657 Your brains have declined. Idiots!

>>660 Do not get so worked up^^. I have listened since the early days too, but honestly I think they have declined.

Leaving aside “decline,” it is probably true that current GARNET has lost its sparkle.

I have listened since their debut, and I do not feel they have declined at all. They have simply changed.

In any case, the sound has changed. That is an undeniable fact.

I would like to hear specifically where and how they have declined. I also prefer the old material, but there are still good recent songs.

It feels like they changed around the time of “Spiral.” “Eien ni Nemure” was the first time music made me want to cry.

>>665 It is hard to explain. Recent GARNET songs do not hit my heart much. Maybe I have simply become accustomed to them, but in the early days almost every song gave me goosebumps. Now I think, “Is that all?” Perhaps it is because I am used to them.

>>599 Calling something progressive can involve heavy synth use, odd time signatures, or an album functioning as a single work or concept album. Most people do not define it theoretically; they just casually feel that something has a progressive-rock flavor. So “a little progressive” is a loose judgment. Still, odd time signatures are probably the most common criterion. >>656 Are you talking about the singles? I think the album tracks and C/W songs still shine like they did in the early days.

The email still has not arrived here. The previous album announcement was also posted on the official site before I received the email, and the email never came in. Only messages related to Hitoshi Okamoto ever reach me. Are they completely looking down on me?

Honestly, “Maboroshi” gave me goosebumps. Personally, I think it is their best recent work.

Among recent songs, perhaps only the live version of “Sayonara to Tatta Hitokoto de...” gives me goosebumps. Nothing recent stands alongside “A Crown,” “Sky,” “Eien ni Nemure,” “Cried a little,” or “in little time.”

People who like neo-acoustic music with pop brightness, a little darkness, and a unique floating quality; early songs with everyday imagery and warm melodies such as “Kimi n’chi,” “Sen Ijō,” and “Futari no Rocket”; or songs with a strong sense of life and death and grand, beautiful arrangements—would those people generally dislike songs after “Atsumeru MÄR”? This categorization of tastes is pretty arbitrary too, lol.

Long promotional copypasta praising Rina Aiuchi as a miracle diva praised by Stevie Wonder and Destiny’s Child, emphasizing her live singing, strong voice, wide range, solid melodies, looks, star quality, former fashion-model career, and unexpectedly anime-like voice. Live-video links follow.

Many singers begin with small everyday or inner-conflict songs, then their subjects strangely grow into war, nature, and the world. I never expected that from GARNET, so I hope they do not go too far in that direction. I am still looking forward to the fifth album.

→ Dating Yurippe: very happy, motivation rises, fatigue disappears, trajectory rises, love sickness.

An extremely graphic sexual fantasy targeting Yukio, involving rape, bondage, forced sexual acts, humiliation, and forced feeding. It is abusive trolling.

Yurippe is already 30, right...?

She still has about ten months before turning thirty.

Nana’s beauty is extraordinary. I will do my best to go to Osaka and Tokyo.

I think “Marionette Fantasia” would make a good theme song for *Rozen Maiden*. What do you think?

Lately I feel I am not depressed enough... GARNET, could you release an especially gloomy song? Something mixing loneliness, despair, anxiety, and assorted other feelings, lol.

Opening sales were 13,000, slightly higher than usual? It is surprising that they were only 1,000 below Haruka Ayase. Anyway, the live show is the important thing. But why put it in the middle of the week?

Are the live tickets too expensive? 6,000 yen.

Yurippe is still very young.

It has been almost two years since the Tokyo live show.

Did they charge a handling fee for fan-club ticket reservations before too?

I cannot imagine getting excited at a GARNET live, so please stop doing live shows. Still, I hope they redeem themselves with “rhythm.”

Only Tokyo and Osaka? So they are not coming to Aichi... What a disappointment...

I have a feeling the encore will be a MÄR song.

>>664 They still cannot compare with Inaba or Aska. I became a fan after listening obsessively on YouTube last month. I do not know which songs are recent or early, so I looked up the years of the songs I like and found them scattered all over. I also listened to the best album: about half the early sound is good and half the current sound is good. In the end, is it not just a matter of what you are used to?

I have a feeling Aichi was omitted because of the MÄR tie-in... Am I overthinking it?

Yurippe’s voice is moving from one extreme to another.

I applied to join the fan club today. How long does the paperwork take?

>>693 You only registered today—will you make it in time? Heh heh heh...

“Nakenai Yoru mo Nakanai Asa mo” has recently hit exactly the right spot for me. By the way, is the B section before the chorus like *Fire Emblem*? lol

>>693 It starts next month.

>>693 Too bad! Try again next time!

>>686 Yes, there is a 500-yen fee. >>693 It is written on the back of the application form.

The combination of low piano and synth in the intro of “flying” is wonderful.

At least come to Aichi... please, really... Was the additional show for the first live in Nagoya? I will place this faint hope there.

No, I joined for the newsletter. I will also be overseas on training during the concert dates.

Tell me the schedule...

>>702 Wait for the official announcement, idiot＾＾

Are GARNET CROW concerts good? From TV they seem like a group suited only to CD listening.

>>704 They are good, though the audience is not very enthusiastic.

What are the highlights, visually and musically?

>>706 Yurippe’s Ossan-style dad jokes. Not Yonsama—Nanasama (ry.

>>695 I am a *Fire Emblem* fan and I did not understand that at all.

>>706 Yurippe: At the beginning, extremely stiff and expressionless like a doll, looking as if she might collapse at any moment. At the end, hyperactive as if drunk, swaying her hips.

>>706 The highlights are Oga’s guitar, Ossan’s flamboyant arm-swinging, and Azuki’s wandering gaze. Nakamura’s unprocessed live voice is genuinely worth hearing.

>>710 Are you going to Osaka or Tokyo?

I will go just to see Ossan’s flamboyant arm-swinging.

Yurippe is so lovable.

>>710 Do not feed him misinformation, lol.

In an era when even Sukima Switch can sell massively, is it not time for a solo breakthrough by Mochi, who follows a similar route?

I think so. Go sell explosively. Goodbye, Mochi.

>>715 Mochi is not really in Sukima Switch’s lane. If anything, he is more like that...

My question was ignored, lol. If you do not want people to dislike you, remove the fixed handle, lol.

The gap between the Osaka and Tokyo shows is too long!

>>719 It must be left open for an additional Nagoya show (ry.

So the album tracks are already available for sampling.

>>719 It takes time. Everyone is getting older, after all...

>>691 Why? Do you have a grudge against that idiot Anzai?

>>718 Do not ask me such a mood-killing question. I am a perfect-attendance champion, lol.

Aichi residents are really persistent...

>>724 How should I know? Are you going to both?

With so few shows this time, scalpers must be delighted.

Wow! I found an idiot who already posted fan-club information on their blog.

The ticket price went up.

Hokkaido is never going to get a show...

>>725 Aichi is relatively lucky. I do not even live in Aichi, so going to Osaka would be hard because of the end time, and it is a weekday... Please understand... Hokkaido residents must be even more frustrated every time. Does anyone travel all the way to Tokyo?

Forget Osaka and Aiuchi; come perform in Gifu.

I traveled from Sapporo for Paul McCartney, but for GARNET... sorry.

Nana’s lyrics around 2000 were genuinely the kind that made you want to die. She must be enjoying life now. The writer’s inner world has changed, so she can no longer write that darkness.

>>728 Post it! Post it!

>>731 I cannot get home by the end of the show anyway, so I plan to stay overnight.

>>734 It probably does not reflect her inner world at all. As a professional, she thinks about what will be popular and sell.

>>708 Is there not *Super Smash Bros. Melee* for GameCube? It has stages with *Fire Emblem* characters, and that is the intro music. “Cha-cha-cha...” repeated twelve times, followed by a long run of syllables.

Even Echo & the Bunnymen did not leave Nagoya off their tour. GARNET is terrible.

ASCII comic: “Shizuchan, could you get me that textbook?” “Which one?”

Come to Sendai... I do not have the money, time, or energy to go to Tokyo. Do I have to give up again this time?

Miso, die.

>>740 I die laughing every time I see it, lololol.

Maybe it has been released, but did Oricon get something wrong?

>>737 I feel Azuki’s writing comes naturally. It feels as though she writes in a calm, continuous flow without overthinking. Of course she probably revises it, but the foundation feels natural. That is just my interpretation as an ordinary listener, lol.

>>736 I see. That is difficult for students. At minimum, I hope they play Sapporo, Sendai, Tokyo, Nagoya, Osaka, and Fukuoka. I never thought it could be larger than the first tour, but if so, could they not use smaller venues? Even if the venue is cheap, they are all weekdays—what is that about? >>732 As a prefectural resident I want to agree, but that has even less chance than Hokkaido, lol.

Do people go to live shows alone? I do not have a single GARNET fan around me...

>>747 If I had a girlfriend, I could bring her. Unfortunately, that relationship ended during the early live shows, lol.

>>747 I do not have anyone either. Going alone to a live house was very lonely a long time ago, and since then I have disliked going alone.

>>747 If I go, of course I will go alone. I have nobody to go with.

I have always thought live shows were something you attend alone. Am I strange?

>>738 It feels a little different, but I roughly understand, lol.

>>751 I actually enjoy the show more alone, but afterward it feels especially lonely.

>>750 Same here. Quite a few people bring their girlfriends to early live shows.

I checked the official site for the Tokyo venue. The weekday and weekend fees differ by only a few tens of thousands of yen. Did they reserve too late and miss the weekend slots?

>>753 Same here. On the Shinkansen returning from an early live, I happened to sit beside someone else returning from the same show. We both knew we loved GARNET, but neither said anything; we sat silently for almost an hour. I got off first, also without a word. It was so sad.

Even saving those few tens of thousands is the GIZA way, lol.

Even though I live in Tokyo, I cannot go that day because of work, so I plan to travel to Osaka. I actually want to attend both; since there are many days between them, I think the set lists may differ greatly.

I always drive my own car to concerts. Taking a packed train after a live is the worst. Cars are the best.

GARNET CROW C/W best album, title undecided. Provisional track list: Disc 1: “Timing,” “hi-speed special oneday,” “For South,” “Yasashii Ame,” “Matsuri no Jikan,” “whiteout,” “Natsu no Owari no Nagai Ame,” “Flower,” “Itsuka Mata Aimashō,” “Tatoeba 12-gatsu no Yoru ni,” “Ring Ring a ding,” “Kōfuku na Pet.” Disc 2: “Float World,” “Yofuke no Ryūseitachi,” “blue bird,” “Circle Days,” “Yasashii Ame,” “CANDY POP,” “blue bird,” “Cried a little,” “Trans・Trap,” “over blow,” “Crier Girl & Crier Boy — ice cold sky —,” and “lose feeling.” Be happy, otaku! The track list is not finalized, but this will launch 2007.

So perhaps the reason live shows do not get lively is that there are so many single people.

Not really necessary↑

The moment “Yuudachi” was missing, I knew it was made up.

People who joke about wanting a best album are basically people who did not buy the singles, right?

>>761 Exactly. Even watching the live DVD feels somewhat underwhelming. Though it is hard to demand a lively atmosphere from GARNET...

The album tracks have already started being distributed on ringtone sites. “Marginal Man” is too playful, lol. Nana, do not make Yurippe sing this.

G-NET emails are hard to read. Are they even saving money on line breaks?

I do not know about the C/W best album, but why has the 24th single’s C/W already been posted here? I have been quietly watching, but the fifth album tracks were also posted before the official announcement. I do not know who is doing this or why, but please stop. The fan-club email recently said to wait until the official announcement.

Would you really consider that not lively? I am the strange one who cries uncontrollably every time, lol.

Disgusting.

We will once again be relying on JR and the Osaka Municipal Subway.

>>760 You made that up yourself, did you not? You edited it in a text editor, lol. >>767 I am dying laughing.

I do not care if they hold no live shows, so I want them to make good music, especially good lyrics. Recent GARNET lyrics feel old-fashioned. After more than five years, she still cannot handle English or pseudo-classical Japanese. The rhythm, storytelling, and everything else are ruined by a suspicious awkwardness that makes you stumble at first glance.

GARNET live shows are less about getting hyped and more about listening seriously. Still, is GARNET partly responsible for the lack of energy? The most they have to drive the atmosphere is something like “Spiral,” and it all depends on Yurippe’s condition that day, lol.

If Yurippe suddenly remembered her old days and performed, “Uraaah! Come on, you guys!!” the crowd would actually go cold.

GARNET live shows are not very different from other GIZA lives. I was surprised the first time because I expected something more focused on listening. It is probably because many audience members also follow other GIZA artists, so their reactions are similar, lol.

I have no interest in other GIZA artists, though.

>>774 This year there are also “Koyoi Eden no Katasumi de” and “Nonsense,” apart from “Spiral.” It may be a little livelier.

I want to sit and listen carefully, so even though I am in the fan club, I will buy a good second-floor seat at auction. Last year had many listenable songs such as “Yume Mita Ato de,” “Kimi Kazari,” “Seichi,” “Kimi Tsure,” and “Sayonara,” so it was great. I plan to listen from the second floor again this year.

How much screen time will Nana get on the bonus DVD??

They will not sing “Nonsense,” and they do not sing C/W tracks anyway. Of course the same set list gets boring. Even so, I will go to see GARNET. They cannot sell enough to tour beyond Tokyo and Osaka. If they sold better, they would naturally go to more places. Some people say it is too far, but if you really want to go, you go no matter how far. That is what being a fan means.

>>773 Condolences to the fake fan who cannot attend a live. >>778 Even “Hare-dokei” is surprisingly good at getting the crowd going, lol.

Everyone, get ready! “Rai~ Rai~ Yaaaーーーー!” The whole venue becomes one, and then we walk into legend...

Aaa-i-ya-i-yaーーーー lololol.

They are not appearing on TV, the singles feel rushed, and there are only two live shows. Am I the only one who feels a strong sense of an ending? Ueki has also flopped, so it feels like GIZA’s last struggle.

I remember reading that Mocchi said something like, “We perform as close as possible to the CD source.” How is that? Personally, a live should be a live version with somewhat different playing.

>>781 I do not think it is related to sales. Saegusa has additional shows and in-store lives too.

>>785 Apart from TV appearances, they are actually doing quite a lot of promotion. I believe they are saving TV appearances for the album promotion. Commercially, GARNET is profitable, and because they ignore the hit-making route, they do not compete with other artists. Even if GIZA collapses, Sony or someone would probably take them over.

>>787 I do not know much about Saegusa, but the number of shows probably was higher when sales were strongest, so there is some relationship. They probably cannot return to the old days. Is this just the tide of the times?

Are GARNET live shows never full?

Why does Yurippe keep getting the lyrics wrong? I went to two live shows and she sang one song wrong both times. She even gets them wrong on the DVD. Is it deliberate, so people do not suspect lip-syncing?

If you sing 20 songs, you will make mistakes. >>788 If Sony can guarantee that they can continue, I would be fine with them moving there, though losing their Kansai base would hurt.

>>791 They are GIZA artists and do not hold many live shows, after all.

If someone would take them over, I wish they would cut ties with that crappy company already. When people who do not know GARNET learn that they share an agency with Saegusa, their view of them inexplicably becomes colder. Additional shows have probably already been decided, even if only as a formality, but I will still send an email asking for them.

I feel that if GIZA collapses, Yurippe may stop singing. She does not seem to have the drive to keep fighting after transferring elsewhere.

The official announcement is already out.

The radio information (Mochi’s special program) and magazine information are still missing. Yurippe wrote about them in her diary, so perhaps the staff were too lazy.

>>775 Was Yurippe a delinquent in the past?

>>794 Why would people’s eyes become colder when they learn GARNET shares an agency with Saegusa? U-ka Saegusa is recognized as a mainstream singer and great beauty.

Shimeji 800.

>>799 Off topic. >>794 Quite the opposite: if someone knew Saegusa but not GARNET, I would look at them especially coldly. Was I baited?

Good morning. >>798 Kaori Mochida, perhaps.

>>798 Someone at Naohito Nishiyama’s level would be easy for her.

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>>795 Exactly. If GIZA collapsed, Yurippe would probably choose to become a NEET.

I hope they appear on *Music Station* when the album is released!

Even Ueki has not appeared. Still, I hope they do, lol. Personally, I want to hear a well-reviewed album version of “Maboroshi.”

Shibuya Public Hall renamed “C.C. Lemon Hall” under naming rights: http://dailynews.yahoo.co.jp/fc/economy/naming_rights/?1158736734 GARNET also performed there, and now the venue name has become strange, lol.

>>808 I am dying laughing, lol. Naming rights really are fashionable now.

I love you, Yurippe. >>201

It seems my dedicated browser malfunctioned and let something strange slip in, so ignore it. “>>201” was unnecessary.

No, that reply itself was unnecessary.

>>812 I laughed, lol.

Changing the mood, let us sing! Large ASCII art parodying a “Fortune King” and “Fortune people Spiral,” ending with “Infinite Fortune King’s song.”

Why can I not hear it that way at all?

Could they hold a live a little farther west? A same-day trip to Osaka is exhausting.

Since I joined the fan club at the second live, I have been considering quitting because they never come near me, lol.

Do not rush into it. Good things happen in life.

The greatest happiness is that Yurippe exists in this world.

Besides Tokyo and Osaka, where else will they hold live shows?

Yurippe is the universe.

I heard Hitoshi Okamoto and Yurippe will appear on Taniguchi’s radio program on September 30. Is this their first appearance together? I feel like they will be asked dangerous questions, lol.

The first time Yurippe appeared on a show alone, they asked, “Is this your first time appearing alone?” So they will probably ask it again, lol.

On the “Maboroshi” cover, there is Mochi beneath the word “Maboroshi.” His neck is shifted to the right along with the character “bo.”

Will they appear on that current karaoke program?

They would never perform there in a place with such low civic standards that it elects Seiko Noda and tolerates slush funds and drunk driving.

>>826 Apart from the Seiko Noda part, apologize to all GARNET fans living in Gifu who have nothing to do with those things, lol.

>>822 It would be funny if they opened with a topic like, “Why not have the members marry each other?” just as when Mochi appeared alone, lol.

>>828 They probably will ask that, lol.

Gifu is GARNET’s holy land.

In a poor rural place like Gifu, Yurippe probably has not even heard the name.

>>830 Why?

I do not know whether Gifu is GARNET’s holy land, but rural Gifu scenery suits GARNET’s music.

The Nagoya night view from the top of Mount Nino-se is wonderful. Though I have nobody to view it with, lol.

>>834 No matter how much you promote Nagoya, they will not hold a live there this year.

>>825 Nobody under Being has appeared on it in the first place...

I am still hoping for additional shows.

>>835 I am not from Nagoya, so no problem. Osaka is enough.

I genuinely love “Naked Story.” If it got a tie-in like the recently ended drama *The Man Who Cannot Marry*—as a single’s ending theme—it would definitely make the annual Top 10. If it still could not, I would stop caring about charts and sales entirely. Sorry, I am mixing past and present and making little sense.

>>839 The lyrics are genius too.

The intro of “Wasurezak i” sounds like the intro of ZONE’s “Sotsugyō.”

There is an album whose first track is “Yume Mita Ato de,” right? The A section of track 4—is it not *Final Fantasy*’s “To Zanarkand”?

Sorry, I meant “pray.” The A section of that song.

GARNET must be pretty impressive if even *Final Fantasy* copied them.

*Final Fantasy X* was released in 2000.

“Nakadashi ganbare” repeated as an extremely long sexual spam post.

Why do the live shows have to be on weekdays...

I want to have perfect pitch like >>842.

I would rather Nakamura have perfect pitch.

The chorus of “Atsumeru MÄR Heaven” sounds like WANDS’ “Jumpin’ Jack Boy.”

>>850 That comparison has already been made to death.

The interlude of “Only Stay” is almost identical to the intro of Reni Marin’s “Unforgivable Sinner.” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T24Md5patA

>>847 Because the venue fees are cheaper. They also seem likely to gouge people on merchandise. This year it feels as if all of GIZA is desperately trying to raise money.

>>848 Not at all, lol. >>850 It does not sound similar at all, does it? You mean the “aikawarazu no friends♪” line?

>>853 Merchandise is always overpriced. A keychain costs 1,000 yen, for example...

I remember now. It really does sound similar—the “jumpin’ jack boy, it is about to explode~” part.

I am tired of replies saying, “Does this not sound similar?” Now that even Nagoya has no live show, will Tokyo be all that remains?

If anything, Osaka is more likely to be the only one left. And it will be at Bakery Factory...

I do not care where it is; please put it on a holiday or weekend orz.

Breaking news! GARNET CROW will hold live shows! ■ Dates: December 6, 2006 (Wednesday): Wel City Osaka Koseinenkin Kaikan Grand Hall December 20, 2006 (Wednesday): Nakano Sun Plaza ■ Ticket price: 6,000 yen per ticket, tax included. Details such as doors-open and start times will be announced on the official site once confirmed. G-NET members registered by the end of September 2006, and lapsed members who renew during September, will receive a payment form for priority ticket reservations. People joining after October or restoring membership from November are not eligible. Contact: 06-6110-0158. GARNET CROW Official Fan Club application office, 1-3-17 Kitahorie, Nishi-ku, Osaka 550-0014. Joining now is still okay, lololol. They really want the money, lol.

At this point it is no longer funny to say “classic GIZA quality, lol.”

Whoa lololol. The email said members registered as valid G-NET members by the end of September and those restoring membership from October, but joining now still qualifies? What a minor character—if this were *Kamen Rider Kabuto*, they would be as minor as Kageyama.

AYA KAMIKI, 4th single “Nemutteita Kimochi Nemutteita Kokoro.” Release date: November 1, 2006. Track 1 written by AYA KAMIKI, composed by Aika Ohno, arranged by Takeshi Hayama. Track 2 “Yakusoku no Basho de,” written, composed, and arranged by Hitoshi Okamoto. Ending theme for the anime *NIGHT HEAD GENESIS* from October 15.

Not as minor as that. At least he does not abduct little girls.

>>860 Reallyーーーー!!!!!!!!

>>855 Maybe they will sell two deluxe posters for 10,000 yen, lol.

>>866 If they put words like “deluxe” or “large-format” in front of it, they probably think they can charge whatever they want. Charging money is fine, but they should at least do some promotion to match it...

Looks like they really are going to hold live shows. It is on the official site too. I do not buy merchandise, and never have.

Only two performances, shamelessly obsessed with making money (not that this is new), and crappy tie-ups. GIZA, seriously, go die.

They would be better off dropping the tie-ups and just playing the songs heavily on the radio. At least then they could play the full versions.

I wish they would hold at least three Pan Kōjō live shows.

Since they are holding live shows, might they do one at Pan Kōjō before the official shows too?

What, no Kyushu? (in Mimura style)

Even at Pan Kōjō, only the people in front would be able to see. It is such a tiny venue, lol.

It was designed as a live venue, yet it turned out like that... Is the designer an idiot?

Normally they would build different levels.

It feels like they could still add different levels even now. I wish they would think of something. But if they add levels, then the upper section... The ceiling is low up there too, lol. They installed all sorts of things, like a big screen. But without it, people in the back could not see anything, lol. It is already a baffling venue, lol.

If Pan Kōjō caught fire, could everyone get out safely?

>>878 Hint: all the creepy otaku get wiped out in one go.

Pan Kōjō, lol.

Please make a poster twice the size of the one from the premium live.

Wiping out all the creepy otaku sounds pretty good. Of course, at a Saegusa live.

>>881 What would you even do with something that huge, lol?

>>881 Forget the size; doubling the price might actually be possible.

Doubling the price means 4,000 yen? That is way too expensive, lol.

Good morning.

Will the future album releases and live shows be affected by the coup in Thailand?

Talking nonsense first thing in the morning, lol.

This thread is growing astonishingly fast, but I am shocked by how low the quality of the fans is.

Good morning. >>872 There are only two shows this time, so it is hard to say. Looking at the schedule, the 9th, 19th, 23rd, and 30th are open. If there is one, the most likely date would be the 30th, one week beforehand.

http://blog.livedoor.jp/tsunemikomatsu1227/

Has Gane ever held a live show at Nakano Sun Plaza before?

The Tokyo show from *I'm waiting 4 you & live* was there, right?

Yeah, Nakano.

In that damn cold weather, too.

>>860 If you apply for membership now, registration takes a month, so membership probably will not be completed until around October 20. That means the payment form for priority ticket reservations will not arrive.

Sometimes member profiles say “affiliated with cule.” What is this “cule”?

Sorry to interrupt, but how many Conan tie-ups have they done by now?

・Mysterious Eyes ・Natsu no Maboroshi ・Yume Mita Ato de ・Kimi to Iu Hikari ・Wasurezaki That makes five.

“Giri Giri Chop” is a GARNET CROW song, right? Then that makes six.

A magnificent bait post has been born.

Whaaaaaat?! (´・д・`)

When I saw them on Music Station, the rhythm section was Billy Sheehan and Pat Torpey, lol. And Nana (AZUKI Nana, the lyricist) was apparently screaming her head off back then too.

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Both live shows are on weekdays. Are they looking down on us? Can I try protesting?

>>900 I deliberately took the bait just to show you, lol. Go see an ear, nose, and throat doctor already, lol.

>>842 I cannot hear it at all. Where exactly does it sound similar?

I miss Mr. Big.

I am the wind~~~ ha~~~ what are you continuing with~~~ yeah~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!!!!!!!

↑ Somehow that does not sound quite right, lol.

“Tell Me” is a classic.

“Tell Me” was on a Tak Matsumoto album, right?

R&B... What was it called again? lol R&B RESPECT... I completely forgot. It was on something with a title like that.

What do people usually abbreviate GARNET CROW to? Is “Gane-kuro” not horribly uncool? It sounds like Uniqlo.

>>912-913 *GIZA studio R&B RESPECT Vol.1 ~six sisters selection~*. Unnecessarily long... Come to think of it, did they only make Vol. 1 after all?

>>915 Thanks. I will look for it next time.

>>915 That is the one, that is the one. I thought there would be a Vol. 2... but there was not, lol.

It is probably the opening of “To Zanarkand,” plus the entire A section of “Pray.”

Enough with the “sounds like...” running gag already. If game music counts too, it would be harder not to find a resemblance.

Come to think of it, it does not sound similar at all.

A song written by Mochi from the AYA KAMIKI side (Hitoshi Okamoto; “Mochi” and “Oka-Mochi” are his nicknames), lol (・∀・).

Will the birth of a new prime minister affect GC’s activities?

>>920 It does sound similar. Not identical, but similar.

>>914 Some people occasionally call them “Gane-kuro.” I always thought it sounded kind of tacky, but I never understood why until you put it that way, lol.

Go, Mochi from the AYA KAMIKI side! (・∀・)

>>924 “Gane-kuro” is way too tacky. They themselves call it “Garnet,” after all... I hope Gane-kuro keeps going without being defeated by fans like this.

People around me all call them “Gane.”

There is still one idiot here who has not realized that this “sounds similar” gag is annoying.

>>908 I really love Paul, lol. You can tell from watching him that he genuinely loves music. People associate him with HR/HM, but his solo album is quite pop-oriented and good too. I wish more people would listen to it. Sorry for going seriously off topic.

Is it not GameCube?

>>897 It is GIZA’s agency.

>>930 Green Channel, lol.

The email about the live shows still has not arrived.

>>933 Is it not on the official site?

I feel like there are several Final Fantasy fans here, lol.

Food Fighter?

Free fuck?

Fuji Film?

Furui (Hiroto Furui) taking a bath?

In songs that are not ballads, when the piano is drowned out, does anyone else have the habit of straining to hear it? I especially notice it when there are visuals. It is pitiful when you cannot hear it at all, lol. Still, even if you cannot hear it, a song feels better as long as someone is playing piano. That is the law.

I lent the best album to someone I know. May evangelism lead to sex.

Speaking of piano, I still prefer “Mizu no Nai,” “Towa o Kake,” and “Yuudachi no Niwa.” I especially love the piano at the end of “Towa o Kake.” Miguel worked on all of them. I hope “Maboroshi” on the album surpasses the original.

The low notes in the intro to “Flying” are good too. Da-dan↑... da-dan→... da-dan↓

“Pray” is the best.

> Songs where the piano gets drowned out The culprit is Mr. Okamoto—!!

I would be willing to pay a little more. The premium live was the same, and this live is the same... (There are surely many working adults who cannot attend when it is on a weekday.) I want to hear them live and see Yurippe (Yuri Nakamura, the vocalist) at least once a year, but being unable to go is incredibly frustrating.

Speaking of Yurippe live, was there not a public radio broadcast?

>>946 And of all things, the Tokyo show is right near the end of the year... Even so, I am going to take time off and go.

What kind of feeling is “Sayonara to Tatta Hitokoto de”? What are the lyrics and music like?

>>950 It is a really heavy heartbreak song. Do not sing it at a wedding. At least sing it at a funeral.

“Sayonara to Tatta Hitokoto de” has unusually direct lyrics about heartbreak. I was really looking forward to it, but the music is not very good.

Sorry. The reply number in >>950 was actually a mistake; it should have been >>949. Next thread: GARNET CROW part.157 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1158850922/

>>950 Please start the next thread.

>>952 Ah, thanks, lol.

Are the live performances on the fifth-anniversary DVD included in full?

I am gradually starting to like “WISH” and “Pray.” “Naked” is still overwhelmingly number one, though. >2nd

Recently I have been thinking that, considering the song structure, “Please forget me” might have fit better on the third album.

>>950 I do not understand people who prefer sad songs when they are feeling sad. Why?

↑ I have started to like that song lately too. The B section and chorus are good. So is the key change.

>>958 When you are sad, it is better to sink all the way to the bottom. After that, all that remains is happiness. Sometimes trying halfway to change your mood does not work either.

>>960 Well, if possible, I would still prefer a shallow valley and a high mountain, lol.

◆ Please keep this thread sage.

You cannot understand happiness without experiencing the bottom.

What pretty words, lol. Emotions do not have a bottom, lol.

Still, movies use things like counterpoint (and music theory does too), where lively music is deliberately played during a sad scene to depict complicated feelings. So applying that to everyday life, changing your mood is not bad either. It is not about forgetting sadness, but naturally pressing it down.

“The bottom,” lol. >>965 More importantly, it is “Please, forgive me.”

>>961 Everyone has their own way of processing emotions. For me, trying every day for no reason to catch an upward draft would be exhausting, so I just wait for the right moment and plunge straight down. Mountains and valleys are things you eventually have to come back from, whether you climb high or fall low, so in the end you return to the starting point. Of course, I am not saying you should do the same.

What is that bizarre thing in the next thread? I blocked it, okay?

By the time of the live show, everyone will already be having year-end parties. Saturday or Sunday really would be better.

Have you heard the three songs from the fifth album? “Yeloow MooN” is moving just from the chorus. Is writing the N in “MooN” as a capital letter one of Nana’s little touches? I like “Marginal Man” too. “Mou Chotto...” is a fairly upbeat song. The melody makes me curious.

It sounds like Marilyn Monroe.

Please hold a live show in Sapporo, even if it is on a weekday.

>>972 Another Sapporo resident here.

Come to think of it, I was wondering why searches from Sapporo were so numerous, but they have dropped again recently. http://www.google.com/trends?q=GARNET+CROW&ctab=0&geo=all&date=all

>>957 I thought the same thing a while ago. But the second album is one that greatly expands their musical range, so it makes you think, “Oh, they can make songs like this too.” Come to think of it, the second album’s sound is really simple for Gane. Compared with the third album, the difference surprised me.

>>957 Do not forget it, lol.

“Please” and “Nogar e” seem a little similar in places (or is it just me?). But if it were put on the third album, it would not be cheap enough. It is probably fine on the second album after all.

Good work, newbie.

I was putting together members to form a band, but when I said we would play GARNET CROW covers, someone ran away. Why? For the record, the vocalist is female.

How would I know something like that? lol.

Let us try to bury the thread.

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>980 You must be unpopular, lol.

What does that have to do with being popular or not? lol. Women really are full of idiots.

Hold on, do not condemn all women as idiots based only on UH76uUWL0’s post.

Are you stupid? lol. I only said the vocalist is female; I am male myself.

Everyone here is probably an Akiba-style virgin anyway, so when they see a woman, all they can do is put her down, right? lol.

Do not push this boring topic all the way to 1,000...

There is a textbook example of an embarrassing brat here.

Bury it.

Where is the new thread?

>>991 Ignore that bizarre copy-paste. GARNET CROW part.157 http://music5.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/musicjg/1158850922/

Try singing it.

La~

If I get post 1,000, the 25th single will come out at the beginning of the year.

If I get post 1,000, their tenth anniversary of activities will be confirmed.

If I get post 1,000, the sixth album will come out in 2007.

If I get post 1,000, the 100th anniversary is here━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━!

If I get post 1,000, a front-row seat at the live show is here━━━━(ﾟ∀ﾟ)━━━━!

If I get post 1,000, GARNET CROW forever.

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